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Old 02-19-2008, 03:19 PM   #11
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Even more quesitonable why BB/Peas left him on an island against Plexico.
I believe coverage broke down.from the looks of it he was suppose to take the inside out and merriweather was coming deep along the goal line for support but he made it a second late.
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:24 PM   #12
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I believe coverage broke down.from the looks of it he was suppose to take the inside out and merriweather was coming deep along the goal line for support but he made it a second late.
I remember reading someone saying that Sanders was shaded over to his side at the start and moved away before the snap; it's really hard to know what the coaches actually called, all we know is what it looked like. I'll likely never watch that play again so I'll never know more
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and what do you base this off of?
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Every time a team needed a big play, Ellis was the go at guy. It is really telling that "a source close to Hobbs" is playing the media.

I am sure he was hurt, he couldn't play that badly healthy, but stop with the damage control. He had a bad year and needs to get better. Assante is going and he isn't a starting corner without a strong corner along side him. If I am Belichick, I get two corners and make him a nickle corner. Although since he gives everybody 15 yards, the slot reciever will always be wide open. Thinking about it, his reciever was always open anyway.
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Every time a team needed a big play, Ellis was the go at guy. It is really telling that "a source close to Hobbs" is playing the media.

I am sure he was hurt, he couldn't play that badly healthy, but stop with the damage control. He had a bad year and needs to get better. Assante is going and he isn't a starting corner without a strong corner along side him. If I am Belichick, I get two corners and make him a nickle corner. Although since he gives everybody 15 yards, the slot reciever will always be wide open. Thinking about it, his reciever was always open anyway.

Ah, yes, more drivel from people who think they know what they're talking about.
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Every time a team needed a big play, Ellis was the go at guy. It is really telling that "a source close to Hobbs" is playing the media.

I am sure he was hurt, he couldn't play that badly healthy, but stop with the damage control. He had a bad year and needs to get better. Assante is going and he isn't a starting corner without a strong corner along side him. If I am Belichick, I get two corners and make him a nickle corner. Although since he gives everybody 15 yards, the slot reciever will always be wide open. Thinking about it, his reciever was always open anyway.
so he's awful because of a picture? Maybe you should learn the concept of zone defense before you make such an assessment.
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Ah, yes, more drivel from people who think they know what they're talking about.
That's the great thing about this board, I just thought the exact same thing.
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That's the great thing about this board, I just thought the exact same thing.
So far, all you've managed to do is prove that you neither understand football, how the Patriots play it, or how stupid using a picture as an argument makes you look.
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so he's awful because of a picture? Maybe you should learn the concept of zone defense before you make such an assessment.
I know what a zone defense is, and Ellis leaves a very large zone between him and the reciever.

Ellis is just OK, but he souldn't be starting on this team. For years the secondary has been a problem. Either from injury or just bad play. There is a reason Assante became a Pro Bowl player when Ellis started to play regularly.

On the play, Ellis wasn't close. There wasn't a whole lot of "zone" to protect and he was still 3 yards off when the ball was caught. Now, you can accuse James Sanders of missing his assignment all you want, the corner fade run by a teams number 1 reciever is a corners number 1 responsibility. If that reciever cuts it inside then the safety might have coverage responsibility also, along with the corner. That little fade pattern was Ellis' responsibility. The Giants ran that play all the time and Ellis had to know it and he still got toasted.

On a last place team Ellis would be ok, on a team as good as the Patriots he proved to be the difference between 18-1 and 19-0.
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On a last place team Ellis would be ok, on a team as good as the Patriots he proved to be the difference between 18-1 and 19-0.


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Tough kid, still the worst starting corner in the league.

Somebody didn't see any of the Saint's games this year.
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