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Re: Would you want Troy Brown as Wide Receivers coach over Nick Caserio?
H eshould be in charge of special teams ... he knows about kick offs and punting ... this thread is going downwards.
Does Troy know anything about zone blocking or the 2-Gap.
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Re: Would you want Troy Brown as Wide Receivers coach over Nick Caserio?
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Originally Posted by MrBigglesWorth
How so? To Who?
From anyone who thinks that a good player can just decide to be a coach. Playing and coaching are very different things. The line of thought that suggests that Brown would automatically be a coach is the reason why Ernie Adams and Belichick had trouble getting their first coaching jobs in the league- people figured that players were coaches, and vice versa, and, since those guys hadn't played a down professionally, it was assumed that they weren't coach material.
As Belichick fans (even at Weselyan, he was far from a standout player), you guys should be as aware as anyone of the fact that coaching talent and playing talent are very, very different things. Would Brown have a leg up if he chose to start at the bottom of the ladder and work his way up? Maybe. Provided that his work ethic and intelligence are equal to those of other candidates, his familiarity with the system would be a bonus. Anyone who thinks that that alone would catapault him to the top of the ranks, though, must not have any idea how nuanced and distinct a profession coaching is.
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Re: Would you want Troy Brown as Wide Receivers coach over Brian Caserio?
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Originally Posted by pats1
"Brian Caserio?"
Is that like a hybrid between Brian Daboll and Nick Caserio?
Probably related to that Casano guy 726 was mentioning too...
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Originally Posted by mgteich
I have never seen such disrespect for what it takes to be quality coach in the NFL.
The average fan, and we have a lot of those here lately, do not realize what goes into coaching at this level, how much of it is a progression, how few guys want to given the salaries paid to players these days, how long it takes to climb through the ranks, how crappy the pay and security are, how honest you have to be with players and management, the pressure you are under to insure guys who are not entirely there at your discretion perform as expected... They also assume anyone who can do it as a player, not to even mention post about it on a message board, could certainly teach it. They don't appreciate how much of it is breaking down a dozen or more players mentally and physically and devising a method to get through to each that will work in relation to their individual skill set and the overall philosophy of the OC or HC.
You really have to love coaching and teaching, and not just love being around football.
Re: Would you want Troy Brown as Wide Receivers coach over Nick Caserio?
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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!
From anyone who thinks that a good player can just decide to be a coach. Playing and coaching are very different things. The line of thought that suggests that Brown would automatically be a coach is the reason why Ernie Adams and Belichick had trouble getting their first coaching jobs in the league- people figured that players were coaches, and vice versa, and, since those guys hadn't played a down professionally, it was assumed that they weren't coach material.
As Belichick fans (even at Weselyan, he was far from a standout player), you guys should be as aware as anyone of the fact that coaching talent and playing talent are very, very different things. Would Brown have a leg up if he chose to start at the bottom of the ladder and work his way up? Maybe. Provided that his work ethic and intelligence are equal to those of other candidates, his familiarity with the system would be a bonus. Anyone who thinks that that alone would catapault him to the top of the ranks, though, must not have any idea how nuanced and distinct a profession coaching is.
Most NFL players love playing, hate practice, hate film study, hate systems and details. They just want to play on Sunday. And once their career is over they don't ever want to work those kind of hours again.
The one guy on this team who has expressed an interest in coaching is Vrabel, but he has also said it is at the college level his interest lies. Probably doesn't want to work with a bunch of professional prima donnas... Coaching at that level is a lot less stressful because of the limits on time spent with the players and the natural progression of turnover every 3-4 years. Unless you aspire to be a college HC which envolves so much politics and recruiting that the pressure can be stifleing in its own way.
Troy has helped out on occasion at Marshall, and doing more of that is not out of the question. But I think his value here would be in a PR function. Those guys can always suit up in sweats to help with a project player or as a mentor to boot.
Re: Would you want Troy Brown as Wide Receivers coach over Nick Caserio?
Yup...Troy's place is in P.R....in fact I can see him rising to a prominent position in the organization as he gains experience...who has more credibility in the public eye when it comes to the Patriots than lifelong warrior and good soldier Troy?
Re: Would you want Troy Brown as Wide Receivers coach over Nick Caserio?
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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks
The one guy on this team who has expressed an interest in coaching is Vrabel, but he has also said it is at the college level his interest lies. Probably doesn't want to work with a bunch of professional prima donnas... Coaching at that level is a lot less stressful because of the limits on time spent with the players and the natural progression of turnover every 3-4 years. Unless you aspire to be a college HC which envolves so much politics and recruiting that the pressure can be stifleing in its own way.
Actually, Welker has also expressed interest in a coaching career (at least, so said his 'lphins.com biography ).
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