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One game that particularly caught the interest of the Giants coaches was not the game everyone probably would have predicted, like Philadelphia or Baltimore.
It was the Patriots game against the Cleveland Browns, on Oct. 7.
The Patriots won, 34-17, which seemed to fit in with all their previous blowout wins the first two months.
But the win was a lot tougher than the stat sheet revealed.
Two of the Patriots touchdowns followed interceptions in Browns territory (34- and 25-yard lines) and another came on a fourth quarter interception return (Randall Gay) for a touchdown.
And while Brady had a very good quarterback rating, 105.7, he completed only 22 of 38 passes for 57.5 percent, his lowest until the Ravens game eight weeks later.
"We learned the most from watching this game. Romeo knew the (Patriots) group," he said of Cleveland head coach Romeo Crennel, the former Patriots defensive coordinator. "The Browns played a two-deep (safety) scheme, mixing them up on third down, especially. Their players always put their hands on receivers at the line of scrimmage, especially on third down. It was the best we saw.
"Romeo didn't want to get beat giving up the deep pass. It was similar to what you saw the Eagles and Ravens do," said Giunta. "But the Browns did it better."
The Browns were the first team that decided Moss, who had averaged 7.8 receptions for 126.3 yards and 1.8 TDs the first four games, was not going to beat them.
Moss finished the Cleveland game with three catches for 46 yards and no scores.
"They also got a little pressure on Brady," said Giunta. "It was really the game that showed us the most."
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Holy crap, the Giants reviewed video tape and came to a conclusion about what kind of plays we would run and how to defend it. CHEATERS!!! Call Specter!!
A certain German General by the name of Rommel used to go out personally to scout his own defense's to see what the weakest point in them was,than he adjusted. It doesn't sound like this was done on the part of the Pats, I would think that you would go back and look at what teams did to almost beat you and come up width a plan in case you're next opponent tried the same thing.
A certain German General by the name of Rommel used to go out personally to scout his own defense's to see what the weakest point in them was,than he adjusted. It doesn't sound like this was done on the part of the Pats, I would think that you would go back and look at what teams did to almost beat you and come up width a plan in case you're next opponent tried the same thing.
This takes too much credit away from the Giants, which is not appropriate in this circumstance.
The goal of a coach is to try to put the players in the best position to succeed. After that, it's up to the players to make the plays to win. Belichick has said this many times, and he says it for a reason.
The Patriots coaching staff really did (for the most part) put their players in the best position to succeed. So did the Giants, and so did the Browns.
After that, it came down to who made the individual plays: who blocked the best on the line, who ran the best routes, and who came down with the ball.
Yeah, the Patriots made some coaching errors, but I bet if you investigate the game closely, you can see some errors the Giants' coaches made as well. Nobody was perfect that day.
The Browns didn't have the personnel to make the plays that day, or if they did, they just didn't make them. The Giants had the personnel (at least a better front 7) to make those kinds of plays. Not many teams do, which further accentuates the Giants' accomplishments.
One of the things the Giants coaches picked up on, and quite frankly a lot of other people too, is that the Pats like to run the ball when Brady is under center. Even a little deception on the part of McDaniels (like running out of the gun or passing when Brady is under center) would have been a nice change of pace.
One of the things the Giants coaches picked up on, and quite frankly a lot of other people too, is that the Pats like to run the ball when Brady is under center. Even a little deception on the part of McDaniels (like running out of the gun or passing when Brady is under center) would have been a nice change of pace.
One of their strengths over the BB era has been self-scouting. That has been lacking since Charlie and Romeo left. Not that they don't do it, but they don't do it nearly as well as they had in the past. There is rarely a call that surprises you. Their execution is great, but the playcalling seems to lack it's former character.
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This takes too much credit away from the Giants, which is not appropriate in this circumstance.
The goal of a coach is to try to put the players in the best position to succeed. After that, it's up to the players to make the plays to win. Belichick has said this many times, and he says it for a reason.
The Patriots coaching staff really did (for the most part) put their players in the best position to succeed. So did the Giants, and so did the Browns.
After that, it came down to who made the individual plays: who blocked the best on the line, who ran the best routes, and who came down with the ball.
Yeah, the Patriots made some coaching errors, but I bet if you investigate the game closely, you can see some errors the Giants' coaches made as well. Nobody was perfect that day.
The Browns didn't have the personnel to make the plays that day, or if they did, they just didn't make them. The Giants had the personnel (at least a better front 7) to make those kinds of plays. Not many teams do, which further accentuates the Giants' accomplishments.
I'm not taking anything away from the Giants, the Pats made it to easy for them to succeed. From what I saw the Pats never did come up with a plan to counter what Cl, Bal. and Philly did to slow the offense down.
I'm not taking anything away from the Giants, the Pats made it to easy for them to succeed. From what I saw the Pats never did come up with a plan to counter what Cl, Bal. and Philly did to slow the offense down.
Because sometimes there is no "magic plan" that suddenly makes your players play better than their players?
I mean I hate to use the same platitudes that come from the team, but everyone in the NFL gets paid to do their job.
Furthermore, you're taking something away from the Patriots by pretending that what they did this season was 'easy' for them. Like all they need is for a coach to call a certain play and they will just happen to win every game of the season. It doesn't work that way. Players gotta play if they want to win.
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