nepatz11

Shaugnessy's column was totally misleading. based on the results and methodology of the poll, i think it is fair to conclude that more people actually think this was the most devastating loss in Boston history than any other individual game. Here is the letter I sent to him:








Dear Dan,

Did you ever stop to consider that your poll was completely skewed? Considering the relatively narrow margin of victory of the poll, I am quite certain that had you compared the Patriots loss in XLII with INDIVIDUAL Red Sox losses and not lumped every devastating Red Sox loss from the franchise history into one category a different result would have
ensued. The overwhelming odds are that if you had done this then the Patriots loss in XLII would have won far and away as the most devastating loss over other one game Red Sox losses.

In fact I would argue that based on the results of this poll I think it is quite fair to say that XLII was CLEARLY the most devastating loss in Boston sports history because it is unlikely that 80% of the 56% of people who voted for the Sox would have picked one Sox loss over the other. More than likely, the Red Sox vote would have been approximately evenly split between 1978,1986 and 2003 giving each loss around 15-20% by itself with each game clearly being dwarfed by the 44% who voted for the Pats in XLII.

I know all internet polls are unscientific, but for you to conclude that the Patriots loss was not the most devastating based on this poll is deceptive and misleading

The timing of this poll (occuring right after the Pats loss) as well as omitting other devastating losses from other Boston teams also grossly confounds the results, but in my opinion the results clearly suggest that at the time it was taken the Patriots loss was almost certainly the most devastating individual game loss in Boston sports history.

Regards-

The Boston Patriot

1) Are you seriously arguing over a defeat.
2) Are you trying to say the Pats are 'the best' at defeats?
3) Are you arguing with a total dufess like DS? If so, why?

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patriotspride

why do we care what loss was the most devastating ? is that something a fan base of a team is supposed to be proud of?

oldskool138

Watch out. If you sent that email from your work computer, Shank will call your boss...I wish I was kidding...

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Pats247

You're not kidding?

nepatz11

im a student so he can call no one!!!!!



i dont care except that i think it is irresponsible to mislead people

Grogan's neck roll

I'm a huge Pats fan, and I'm no Shaugnessy fan, but I have to agree with him on this one. I wanted 19-0 a lot, I was happy the Pats got to 18-0 and I thought they would beat the Giants.

However, the loss in Game 6 in 86 was the biggest loss in my life, for the simple fact that the game was won. It was in the bag, done, up 3 runs with two outs and no one on. To lose that game was incomprehensible.

Now the Pats game was devastating, but going in and certainly during the game it was apparent to me that they could lose it. Even after they scored to go up 14-10 I knew there was still a very good chance they could lose, based on the way things had gone to that point.

I understand that others may disagree, but to say that the column was "misleading" is a little over the top, in my opinion.

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MoLewisrocks

Highschool or college...

Having lived though half a century of the period he was discussing, this Pat's loss was far less devastating on a regional basis in large part because of he 3 Lombardi's already residing in Foxboro. You were likely just too young to appreciate what happened in the olden days...

More young people may agree with you because this is your first stunning defeat. Believe me, those of us old enough to be your parents, have survived worse.

allworldrussfrancis

[QUOTE=nepatz11;795355]Shaugnessy's column was totally misleading. [QUOTE]

And you are surprised. I read that column and actually I agree with the post above - are we really arguing over what defeat is worst? But that column is typical Shaugnessy - he has stated over and over again that baseball is the only sport that really matters to him. So of course he cannot comprehend why others are so upset with the Pats SB loss.

Also - don't forget that he made himself a pretty penny with his "curse" books on the Sox.

nepatz11

Im beyond college and Im 29 so I vividly remember the championship drouight from 1986-2001 as that was a time when I was a major sports fan.


I think you guys are missing the point. The survey was misleading. It compared apples to oranges. Thats what I didnt like about it. EVeryone is entitled to their individual opinion but if you compared individual games versus other individual games the largest single response would have been XLII that was all i was sayuing