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Yeah, I think it best describes their lack of understanding with the QB position when they gave their reasoning on why Brady was so low on their top 101 players. They use the analogy that if Brady was in school he would always get "A"s, but that was because he was taking an easier test than everyone else. Basically saying that what he does is easy with just short quick passes that does not take a lot of skill and anyone could be successful at (granted if it was that easy, why isn't every team with a less than elite QB doing this?). If anything, that couldn't be farther from the truth.
I see guys like Brady and Manning taking much harder tests because they beat defenses with their minds, not as much their physical skills. While many QBs just use their God given talent to make players without much presnap reads or diagnosing the play going on (Ben Roethlisberger), Brady and Manning are disecting the play before the ball is even snapped, making adjustments, going through their reads, recognizing the rush and coverages, etc. Most QBs do that to some extent, but those two do it far more than maybe any QBs in NFL history. Unfortunately for PFF, they do not recognize that these skills are what make QBs special, not the ability to huck the ball 60 yards down the field into double coverage.
Using their logic Jeff George is a first ballot hall of famer!
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Mankins needs a 5 year deal... We need him protecting Brady's blind side for the remainder of TFB's contract. Are G's not worth the $$$?
That's a highly debatable question. One that most would answer 'no' to, based on the average salary of a guard, and what they are specifically asked to do--as opposed to Left Tackles for instance.
In this situation, I would just give him the damn extra money/extra year, whatever it is that he wants (within reason). But I would come up a bit to keep him around, and that's exactly what I expect them to do.
I will never get why the media loves PFF so much when their stats are so blatantly flawed it isn't funny. Funny, I never saw any of the local guys run the PFF story stating that Brady was the 33rd best player in the NFL last year and question whether the Pats made a mistake giving him such a big deal.
Mankins is A top guard in the league. Possibly even THE top guard. But not because PFF says so.
They love PFF because it offers a lot of information. They appear unconcerned whether that information has any accuracy.
Yeah so?!? Every hear the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? Do you really think that showing us that a lot of people in the media are either too ignorant of the fact that PFF's data is flawed or just don't give a crap because it gives them stuff to write about is going to "prove" to us that PFF is a legitimate site?
Sorry, Guregian and SMY quoting PFF does not make the site anymore legitimate. It just hurts their credibility.
I will never get why the media loves PFF so much when their stats are so blatantly flawed it isn't funny. Funny, I never saw any of the local guys run the PFF story stating that Brady was the 33rd best player in the NFL last year and question whether the Pats made a mistake giving him such a big deal.
Mankins is A top guard in the league. Possibly even THE top guard. But not because PFF says so.
I don't believe that Mankins is the best guard in the NFL. At least not in terms of pass protection. He is a beast in the run game though. PFF's ratings are about as useful as used toilet paper, not very. Not only did PFF argue that Tom Brady was not an MVP candidate, they even snubbed him for the lesser offensive player of the year award based on their 'statistical analysis'. They were the only football related website to do so.
Their ratings are totally ridiculous considering Tom Brady was the first unanimous All-pro selection at the QB position, eliminating a second team all-pro selection. I mean wow, talk about twisting facts, if you had half a brain and actually watched the game you would have seen that Brady dominated the game like no other QB last year.
PFF = Sophists with self-inflated opinions of themselves. Please never bring up their faked up stats to me as support for anything as they have zero credibility with knowledgeable football fans.
I don't believe that Mankins is the best guard in the NFL. At least not in terms of pass protection. He is a beast in the run game though. PFF's ratings are about as useful as used toilet paper, not very. Not only did PFF argue that Tom Brady was not an MVP candidate, they even snubbed him for the lesser offensive player of the year award based on their 'statistical analysis'. They were the only football related website to do so.
Their ratings are totally ridiculous considering Tom Brady was the first unanimous All-pro selection at the QB position, eliminating a second team all-pro selection. I mean wow, talk about twisting facts, if you had half a brain and actually watched the game you would have seen that Brady dominated the game like no other QB last year.
PFF = Sophists with self-inflated opinions of themselves. Please never bring up their faked up stats to me as support for anything as they have zero credibility with knowledgeable football fans.
I do agree that Mankins is far better vs. the run than the pass. I think he is a big reason why BJGE emerged as a productive RB. I don't know if he is the top guard, but he is a top guard. He may be the best run blocking guard in the league. He isn't the top pass blocking one. Overall though he still be #1.
Yeah so?!? Every hear the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? Do you really think that showing us that a lot of people in the media are either too ignorant of the fact that PFF's data is flawed or just don't give a crap because it gives them stuff to write about is going to "prove" to us that PFF is a legitimate site?
Sorry, Guregian and SMY quoting PFF does not make the site anymore legitimate. It just hurts their credibility.
That (hurts their credibility) is true for people like us, but let's face it: even though the vast majority of the people here at this site are in agreement regarding PFF, we're not really representative of all Pats fans, or sports fans that read the Globe. The majority of people that spend their time here are more fanatical, and because of the above average amount of time they spend following the team and the game they tend to be more knowledgeable.
However, we are probably a very tiny portion of the audience for a newspaper like the Globe. For every one of us whose first thought is 'why are they quoting PFF', there are probably hundreds of people who read those articles and took it at face value, having no reason to believe the numbers might not be accurate.
So in reality when reporters who are generally held in high esteem (e.g., Mike Reiss, Christopher Price, Karen Guregian, Shalise Manza-Young) quote PFF, the hit to their reputation is infinitesimal. Reiss and Price have previously used PFF stats on their blogs; I don't think anybody stopped reading them, or found them to be a questionable source of information afterwards.
Unfortunately, with each time one of these writers again quotes them and uses them as part of a column, PFF's credibility and reputation subtly does indeed grow in the minds the general public.
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