OT: "Very Good Chance" Vrabel retires and joins Ohio State Staff - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

***DaBruinz*** · 07-11-2011, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by supafly

Yes, just like Oregon, USC, NCarolina, and many other big time schools will.

However, those sanctions will have no bearing (or little bearing) on the future of the football program, besides losses of scholarships (which could be argued as being serious in the future).

Their Sugar bowl victory over Arkansas may also be 'taken away' whatever that really means in the big picture?

Tressel left...Pryor left...the others are serving a penalty which has already been agreed to by the NCAA of 5 games.

Future scholarships will be taken away, and possible games that have already been played will be forfeited (at worst).

What else can be done? Considering that Tressel resigned under the scrutiny, and Pryor also left. The NCAA doesn't have to do much else, considering they already lost their star coach, and star QB...for good.

In other words, OSU already made the worst-case scenario a reality...it can't get much worse, and since the majority of the sanctions were about those 2 people, their work will be somewhat easy to figure out. In the harshest punishment possible, they may not allow them to go to a major bowl for a yr or two, but since they are the winningest college football program in the last 15 years, it's still a pretty damn good job for the future (from Vrabel's perspective)

Couldn't they do to OSU what they did to SMU????

***ctpatsfan77*** · 07-11-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

Couldn't they do to OSU what they did to SMU????

In theory, I think so(apparently the school must be found guilty of major NCAA violations within five years of being on probation).
In reality, it's been said that the NCAA will never do it again except in the most extraordinary of cases (you know, something like players and coaches alike being involved in large-scale point shaving, etc.), because it basically destroyed the SMU program for something like 20 years.

dhamz · 07-11-2011, 08:53 AM

The only possible thing you could question about Vrabel taking the job now is it could be very temporary. Fickell is a 1 year interim guy and there will almost certainly be a new big name coach on the OSU sidleines in 2012 who will probably want to bring in his own staff.

***sbpatfan*** · 07-11-2011, 11:00 AM

O$U better face serious sanctions. If it wasn't for those cheating bastards MSU would've went to the Rose Bowl against a more evenly matched TCU.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 07-11-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dhamz

The only possible thing you could question about Vrabel taking the job now is it could be very temporary. Fickell is a 1 year interim guy and there will almost certainly be a new big name coach on the OSU sidleines in 2012 who will probably want to bring in his own staff.

I'd like to see how that conversation would go down. . . .

dhamz · 07-11-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

I'd like to see how that conversation would go down. . . .

It would probably go something like, "I'm Urban Meyer. I'm one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport and I am here to tell you all your services are no longer needed."

signbabybrady · 07-11-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dhamz

The only possible thing you could question about Vrabel taking the job now is it could be very temporary. Fickell is a 1 year interim guy and there will almost certainly be a new big name coach on the OSU sidleines in 2012 who will probably want to bring in his own staff.

Certainly an interesting point. But it would still leave him with his first year of coaching experience under his belt and he would have done it at his alma matta which is said to be a dream of his.

But Urban would probably be happy to keep him between Vrabel's Ohio state legacy and time spent in BBs system which Urban respects and I am sure has copied or patterned to some degree.

***goheels22002*** · 07-11-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dhamz

It would probably go something like, "I'm Urban Meyer. I'm one of the winningest coaches in the history of the sport and I am here to tell you all your services are no longer needed."

I think you have the wrong Meyer. It should be:

"Hello, I'm Ron Meyer. Most people remember me for sending the ex-con onto the field with a lawnmower to clear away snow for John Smith to kick a field goal against the Dolphins. But what I am really great at is cheating. I am the only coach to earn, but escape, the NCAA death penalty! Jim Tressel is a rank amateur compared to me. I know, Bobby Collins followed me as HC, but by then the cheating was so smooth and the cars and cash so great for the recruits, there was no stopping SMU! Urban Meyer? Puh-lease!"

***NEGoldenAge*** · 07-11-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

I'd like to see how that conversation would go down. . . .

If the conversation didn't go well, Vrabes would probably steal a bunch of beers on his way out. j/k, I love Vrabes

***ctpatsfan77*** · 07-11-2011, 04:25 PM

From Robert Kraft at Patriots.com:

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"Mike Vrabel was a key contributor to the most successful era in Patriots franchise history and I will forever be grateful. His performance in Super Bowl XXXVIII was MVP worthy and his touchdowns in back-to-back Super Bowls helped us win three championships in four years. During his Patriots career, there was no player more respected for his football intellect and revered for his leadership by his teammates than Mike. He was elected a team captain by his peers and is a player who I think everyone knew was destined to become a coach after his NFL playing career was over. I am thrilled for Mike and his family that his first coaching opportunity allows him to return home to coach at his alma mater, a school that he has always passionately supported. I am sure this is a dream come true for Mike and will be the start of a long and successful coaching career at Ohio State. I know I'll be rooting for him. Mike is a true Patriot."