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Old 02-04-2008, 03:03 PM   #11
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Moss didn't throw anybody under the bus. All he said was that the Giants executed their gameplan better. Thats it.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:04 PM   #12
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Moss didn't throw anybody under the bus. All he said was that the Giants executed their gameplan better. Thats it.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:04 PM   #13
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I disagree with the OP's reasoning. I believe Richard Seymour said the exact same thing in the last couple of years and nothing really came of it.

However, I am not 100% sold on wanting Moss back here. I loved him all year and I have the ultimate respect for him turning his act around. However, the issues I have are:
1- Age. He isn't too old to still play at a high level, but he is too old to risk a ton of money and years on, which is probably what he would get elsewhere.
2- Personality. It's not his personality per se that is an issue. It is the fact that I think it might just be too big of a personality for this team. The Patriots need to get back to being a blue collar, "git 'er done" organization, not one full of big names and guys who think they are the greatest.

I don't know what I think about re-signing him or not, as I am in no condition to make the judgment after the loss, but those are two things that concern me about him going forward.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:11 PM   #14
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So Moss praised the opposing game plan; and you want him off the team?

He didn't say they had a better game plan (which they did); he didn't say our game plan sucked; he said they had a good game plan.

He didn't say "we lost because our coaching staff sucks"

I bet if you asked him, he'd also say the giants players outplayed the patriots players.

Its funny; if he said nothing, people would be saying he was a sore loser
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Just like Rylan Leef and Rex Grossman

Hey atleast Tommy was fortunate to win sbs with stout defensive teams unlike those two
The Giants dline is what won the game...
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I disagree with this thread completely. We should get rid of the best WR in the game? We really want to change our WR core in the offseason again? I know everyone is hurting right now but let's not be this kneejerk reactionary.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:25 PM   #17
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Just like Rylan Leef and Rex Grossman

Hey atleast Tommy was fortunate to win sbs with stout defensive teams unlike those two
Rex Grossman had a stout defensive team last year, remember? Are you a Giants fan or just an insecure fan of a team the Pats shat on this year and will ***** on next year? Just curious.

If you watched the game last night or know anything about football, which I doubt, you'd know that our O line was completely dominated all game long. Brady didn't have his best game but I can't figure out how losing one game makes a QB comparable to Ryan Leaf or Rex Grossman?

I know you think you're really getting to us right now, and you hate the Pats, but your comments are just completely meaningless. When did Rex Grossman and Ryan Leaf win 3 SB's? when did they break the TD record and lead their team to 18-0 and their fourth Superbowl. If you're going to talk ***** at least make it meaningful, otherwise you just come off like an idiot.

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Seems like the OP is kind of...wrong.

Moss didn't throw anyone under the bus. And when asked if he wanted to be a Patriot next year, with no hesitation at all he said "of course". Then went on to praise the organization. But I don't see that part in the OP's comments.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:31 PM   #19
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The guy has quietly done his job all year and has spoken nothing but praise for the organization all season. He gave credit to the Giants' d-line and yes, he stated that the inability to stop that d-line (16 hits on Brady in that game) may reflect coaching. And yes, teams doubled him for the last five games, making throwing to him a little risky but leaving other receivers open but giving him little in the way of statistics. He never quit, and he actually blocked.

I love his big play ability, and I think he has become the next Dillon for the Pats. If he keeps working, I suspect the Pats would get at least 3 good years from him after this one. He is a finesse player, not a power player, so I do not think you will see the same dropoff as you may see in a running back.

Unfortunately, it comes down to him. The Pats will not throw more money at him than it would at Brady, and he could probably get $9 million+ if his real issue is money. If he goes for the team and prospects of winning a Superbowl, he will stay here, take less and prove he is more about winning than money. Only time will tell.
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You're a tool. Moss should be here and catch 24 TD's.
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