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Old 06-17-2011, 01:06 PM   #1
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When free agency finally starts (knock on wood), teams will begin the scramble to sign free agents. Teams will have to learn the new rules of a new CBA and make quick judgments of how best to deal with its intricacies. And to top it off, 100% of the rookies have to be signed to contracts. Take a guess who will be working overtime. And to boot, the front offices don't know yet who's going to be a free agent, which can have a two-fold effect: 1) who is available and 2) who they're potentially losing (at least these should be correlated for most teams).

Albeit the higher ups in front offices will likely know well before free agency begins the cutoff for free agency (5 or 6 years), but it's no understatement that these guys are going to be busy. Especially considering that the League will want this process to move quickly to limit any truncation of TC and pre-season, and most importantly so that the season starts on time.


Any thoughts on how this will effect our strategy? Any predictions or related musings?

I see us as being fairly well shielded as compared to other teams. If we lose a guy like Page, I see McGowan as an easy replacement for another 1- or 2-year deal. This contrasts to the Jets obviously, but I wonder about teams that want to be trigger-happy come free agency (like the Eagles). I guess we can just sit back and enjoy the show.
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:09 PM   #2
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whatever happens...we'll be allright.

We have the best when it comes to FA.
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Yes, there will be an initial scrambles, as is always the case. And yes, there will be incompetent fron offices. We have one of the very best. I see absolutely ZERO problems for the patriots in free agency, whether it lasts 2 weeks or 2 months.

The patriots have only only one key free agent, Matt Light; and they already have 3 other LT's on the squad who could start if Light is not back. We have zero NEEDS in free agency, although they whould be several opportunities for upgrades and trades.
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When free agency finally starts (knock on wood), teams will begin the scramble to sign free agents. Teams will have to learn the new rules of a new CBA and make quick judgments of how best to deal with its intricacies. And to top it off, 100% of the rookies have to be signed to contracts. Take a guess who will be working overtime.

And to boot, the front offices don't know yet who's going to be a free agent, which can have a two-fold effect: 1) who is available and 2) who they're potentially losing (at least these should be correlated for most teams).

Albeit the higher ups in front offices will likely know well before free agency begins the cutoff for free agency (5 or 6 years), but it's no understatement that these guys are going to be busy. Especially considering that the League will want this process to move quickly to limit any truncation of TC and pre-season, and most importantly so that the season starts on time.
I don't think it has too much impact on too many front offices. Right now if I was a GM, I would be scenario building (as I would before any free agency period) with the only significant difference is that I would be generating more scenarios. Traditionally the scenarios would be based on which guys are resigned, which guys are released, which guys are you interested and in what ranking. So if the Pats are looking for a 3-4 DE within a certain budget what happens if Player A is resigned by his current team, Player B is released, Player C signs with the Lions and Player D's agent is on the phone --- what is the option tree?

The difference this year is who is an RFA, what are the RFA and ERFA rules, what are the franchise rules --- so run out scenario boards with 4 year RFA rules, 5 year RFA rules and 6 year RFA rules.

Not that difficult.
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And then comes the question of OLB. If we go after a former 4-3 OLB or DE, then that player will have to go through the process of learning a new position (during a limited TC). What's more, the player may not be any good with the position change. If we do go after someone, then I see that as a sign that BB dislikes our OLB situation (obviously). I know a lot of us don't like our status at the position, but plenty of times his opinion has differed from ours considerably. And if he doesn't go after someone, then that doesn't mean he loves our players by any means. In the end, I don't see an OLB acquisition occurring this season. That being said, if we can somehow get a steal (very unlikely), then I could see it happening.
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I don't think it has too much impact on too many front offices. Right now if I was a GM, I would be scenario building (as I would before any free agency period) with the only significant difference is that I would be generating more scenarios. Traditionally the scenarios would be based on which guys are resigned, which guys are released, which guys are you interested and in what ranking. So if the Pats are looking for a 3-4 DE within a certain budget what happens if Player A is resigned by his current team, Player B is released, Player C signs with the Lions and Player D's agent is on the phone --- what is the option tree?

The difference this year is who is an RFA, what are the RFA and ERFA rules, what are the franchise rules --- so run out scenario boards with 4 year RFA rules, 5 year RFA rules and 6 year RFA rules.

Not that difficult.
Well described, but what sounds simple in theory doesn't always play out so simply. Especially for teams trying to retain key players. The you-know-what could hit the fan for a team and they get desperate.

On a separate note, it's interesting how the suspense is building this lead-up to free agency compared to prior years. We never have had so many free agents (or players anticipating trades) this late in the process. Albert Haynesworth, Plaxico Burress, Reggie Bush, and Asomugha to name a few.
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whatever happens...we'll be allright.

We have the best when it comes to FA.
Adailus Thomas, Steve Martin, Donald Hayes, Donte Stallworth say hi as main free agent busts.
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Chaos reigns supreme for the unprepared, not for the NEP. Anyone who has followed the management style of the 21st century Patriots knows that the Patriots front office has a detailed list of If...Then...Else contingency plans for all permutations of noveau FA under the yet unborn 2011 CBA. A non-issue for Pats fans. And a few pratfalls from the bottom tier NFL front offices to come.
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Chaos reigns supreme for the unprepared, not for the NEP. Anyone who has followed the management style of the 21st century Patriots knows that the Patriots front office has a detailed list of If...Then...Else contingency plans for all permutations of noveau FA under the yet unborn 2011 CBA. A non-issue for Pats fans. And a few pratfalls from the bottom tier NFL front offices to come.
not to mention Kraft is in the middle of negotiations, so he might know which way the players/owners are leaning. But, I say that's probably completely unnecessary as they most likely have the lists of those players who are in the 4th, 5th, 6th year of the rookie contracts along with Franchise and Transition tags.

I would think all teams have this level of detail (though I wonder how many have contacted players already). Probably few to none with the situation in place. i mention that because of times when FA sign a dea l15 minutes after the FA period begins.
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Adailus Thomas, Steve Martin, Donald Hayes, Donte Stallworth say hi as main free agent busts.
Meh Donte was decent in his role in 07.

Let's not forget Welker,Moss,Vrabel,Harrison,Dillon,Phifer,Crumpler ,Patten and Co.
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