KDPPatsfan85

Reports hint new CBA could happen by late June - CBSSports.com



Lets hope Free Agency starts soon!! I am glad they are working things out. See what happens when you get the lawyers away?? Lawyers are deal breakers not deal makers!!

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convertedpatsfan

Agreed. It is in the lawyers' financial interest for this to drag out as long as possible.

Hopefully the deal gets done soon. I'm sick of reading about labour laws and legal mumbo jumbo.

KDPPatsfan85

June 21st should be the first date we look at. I know the actual ruling comes July 3rd. So if the owners vote on the deal and gets it done. June 25-27 we could be looking at free agency and mini camps then Training camp.

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patfanken

I'd like to know, if the talks are at a point where a deal could be reached by the end of the month, WHY don't the owners lift the lockout NOW! It wouldn't hurt their negotiating stance. In fact, it would give them the high ground in the PR war, and show good faith to the players. Its a no LOSE situation.

END THE LOCKOUT NOW!

MoLewisrocks

June 21 is just optimistic speculation based on that being the date of the next owners meeting. A lot would have to transpire between now and then for them to even have an agreement in principle on the major issues. The rest would have to be hammered out and put to paper and voted on by the league AND A PLAYERS UNION before anyone gets traded or goes back to work... And the appeals court ruling is not coming on any given date, it could be tomorrow or a month from tomorrow...

KDPPatsfan85

I agree, I am just happy something is happening. I am excited for free agency. I wonder who the Patriots will sign or trade for.

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MoLewisrocks

Because there is no CBA or rules in force now and the players aren't members of a union so they can further sue for damages if anything unfortunate happens to them because the owners were foolish and impatient enough to jump the gun!

patfanken

Like I said in another thread on this topic, your issue of "liability" can be easily disposed of by both parties agreeing to some basic operating rules that would allow the players to have contact with their coaches, organized team activities, the signing of UDFAs and FA/draftee negotiations, if not actual signings.

At this point they probably know what the cap is going to be. They know how they want to handle the new rookie salary cap, and how that extra money is to be distributed, etc. WHY NOT start at least SOME of the league activities while the freakin' lawyers take 3-4 weeks taking a simple 10 page document (estimate) and turning it into 10 INCHES of legalese.(probably an UNDERestimate)

ay-yo

Both sides are starting sweat a little as we get closer and closer to missing preseason games. That's money that both sides are losing and neither side wants that. I also think if pre-games get missed there will be a LOT more negative PR for both sides.

I haven't really paid attention to this stuff cus I don't wanna hear rich people bicker but I think something gets done at some point in July.

MoLewisrocks

Because in business let alone billion dollar business it's the legalese that gets you screwed over because it's often in conflict with aw shucks common sense. Roughly eight hundred of these guys who have the ability to earn six and seven figure salaries and bonuses presently don't have a signed contract with anyone or any disability insurance (nor do teams have insurance on them) and are paying for their own COBRA medical...just for openers. It's gonna take the league a couple of days just to hammer out the process for dealing with that situation in a small window.

The owners have resisted any form of unlocking absent a done deal for very sound reasons that remain until an agreement is signed and sealed. They could yet hit bump in the road (perhaps over judicial oversight) and as they stated to the courts in defense of upholding the lockout you cannot unscramble eggs (FA signings, trades, etc.) simply and you cannot expect a business to operate under rules that violate anti trust absent a CBA.

And it won't be a ten page document although for public consumption it could possibly be summarized in about that. It will be a hundred plus pages the lawyers wheretofor into twice that so no one but one of them can easily interpret it...or several of them can argue ad nauseum as to what it was intended to mean.

Besides which there would be little or nothing going on now anyway since mid June to mid July is traditionally the dead season in the NFL with coaches and FO staff away on vacation reporting back just in time to gear up for camp and most players taking a final break in their training as well prior to camp. If they get a deal done by the 4th of July they will have a window in which to deal with FA and rookie signings (most of which don't happen before mid to late July) before opening camps at the end of that month. Jumping the gun to half ass an extra two weeks into that process wouldn't gain them enough to be worth the risk of hitting a snag after you've abandoned a position of leverage you've spent millions establishing.