Brady in town; will lead workouts - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

***MoLewisrocks*** · 06-01-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NEGoldenAge

Where can I find where Bill "said as much"?

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“Well, I’m sure every team has some players that have some things organized that they’re doing together in varying degrees,” Belichick told me, “but who knows what is really going on?” “None of us have observed those workouts,” Belichick continued. “And what their idea of a productive workout is and maybe what another group of players is doing and how those compare… What a group of players on this team is doing relative to a group of players on another team and all that, I mean, your guess is as good as mine.”

If you need a belichick to english decoder to read between the lines you can borrow mine...

***MoLewisrocks*** · 06-01-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mgcolby

You don't think the Pats passed out playbooks, like every other team did, when the lockout was temporarily lifted and the players showed up to the facilities?

I would be shocked and pissed off if the Pats didn't get their playbook dispersed during the injunction.

Who said every team passed out playbooks? Mike Pouncy just for one stated he did not receive one from the Dolphins. Some teams are changing systems or coaches and don't even have one to hand out yet...

***KontradictioN*** · 06-01-2011, 12:38 PM

I'm fine with the timing of this. Today would be the first day of minicamps. There's still a good chunk of the offseason to work on the offense with Brady leading the way, particularly with the lockout still in place.

***mgcolby*** · 06-01-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

Who said every team passed out playbooks? Mike Pouncy just for one stated he did not receive one from the Dolphins. Some teams are changing systems or coaches and don't even have one to hand out yet...

Mike Pouncey was drafted the night before. I think rookies would be the last of the group to receive a playbook. Especially those drafted Friday night and later. And with that said Miami doesn't even know who their QB is by all reports and they just hired Daboll as their OC, which I would assume would mean a whole new offense. Either way not getting the playbooks out is a major screwup especially for them. That franchise seems to be more interested in selling off 5% chunks of ownership to music stars that have any association with South Florida than they do with winning games these days.

Again I would be shocked if Tom Brady and the rest of the core group of players didn't receive the playbook or some version of the playbook on that Friday. In addition the core offense isn't going to change.

***NEGoldenAge*** · 06-01-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

If you need a belichick to english decoder to read between the lines you can borrow mine...

I just asked where I could find where BB "said as much". If you have a link, post it...

RayClay · 06-01-2011, 12:54 PM

I agree with whoever said it's good for Brady to get away as much as possible. He's in a warm area to work out, there's nothing organized going on anyway, and he's not a young pup with energy to burn, he's a veteran who's taking a pounding physically, and with stress ever season.

I think the greats realize it's the intensity and discipline you show in workouts more than how much time you put in, that counts. When you know what you're doing, you get more done in less time.

When you're beat up and stressed, you don't practice with the same intensity.

BradyManny · 06-01-2011, 01:02 PM

This is good news. While I agree with some that generally player-led workouts probably don't have much value outside of chemistry-building, you have to feel good about having guys like Brady, Wilfork, Mayo out there leading the way.

Especially w. Brady & the offense. The guy knows the offense well enough that Belichick hardly spends that much time on that side of the ball in practice or the games.

Let's just hope no one gets injured...please....

BradyManny · 06-01-2011, 01:02 PM

As for playbooks, what's stopping one of the vets from copying theirs and handing them to the rookies?

***MoLewisrocks*** · 06-01-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NEGoldenAge

I just asked where I could find where BB "said as much". If you have a link, post it...

Check the Rapsheet archives or the Sunday Herald from two weeks ago...

***MoLewisrocks*** · 06-01-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mgcolby

Mike Pouncey was drafted the night before. I think rookies would be the last of the group to receive a playbook. Especially those drafted Friday night and later. And with that said Miami doesn't even know who their QB is by all reports and they just hired Daboll as their OC, which I would assume would mean a whole new offense. Either way not getting the playbooks out is a major screwup especially for them. That franchise seems to be more interested in selling off 5% chunks of ownership to music stars that have any association with South Florida than they do with winning games these days. Again I would be shocked if Tom Brady and the rest of the core group of players didn't receive the playbook or some version of the playbook on that Friday. In addition the core offense isn't going to change.

Brady and most of that core group wasn't there and Pouncey was drafted #15 on Thurdsay evening. He and the first rounders all were at their respective facilities on Friday.

Absent coaching these playbooks aren't worth the paper they're printed on. That's why teams push participation in off season programs and OTA's and mini camps so hard. So that by the time TC rolls around coaches have a clue what they've got to work with and that is what they base their decisions on relative to what kind or version of scheme they are built to run for the upcoming season... Last season Bill knew he wanted to change up the offense, but until he saw his new TE's performing in the offense he wasn't sure he could...

What these players are doing now absent coaching and film work and meetings could as Bill stated be anything...including meaningless. Random isn't what he counts on. Will it help some of them? Will it harm some of them? He hasn't got a clue so it's meaningless to him. He'll do what he has to do to build on it or undo it once he gets them back under his thumb...

Someone on another site summed up what the receiver group and any offensive rookies probably got out of their workouts this AM. An opportunity to have Brady cuss them out...