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Old 01-28-2008, 12:58 AM   #1
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Default Hey Pats fans, how has it been in your city this melinium?

Especially with all those championships won just about every year with your teams? How would you describe your neighbors et al? Satisfied? Spoiled? Want more and more?

Just curious-b/c I've been a lifelong resident of Dallas/New Orleans my entire life(DFW from '85-'88 && '06-present, New Orleans from '88 to '06)...so as you can see, while the residents there can be nice, at the same time, you can probably feel alot of emotions like bitterness, frustration, indifference, et al.

Like when the Red Sox won in '04-I asked one of my professors, "Guess who's next to break 'the curse'"? And he responded-"Who? The Saints?? Pfffffffffttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!! It'll be at least another 125 years before that happens". And, of course, with pretty much everyone from Romo to Dirk Nivinkski to Avery to Wade to Bill P choking in DFW, choking has turned into a common joke here.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:40 AM   #2
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I think the word that best describes how I feel is privileged. I'd say the feeling definitely started in '04, with the Red Sox winning the World Series. While it certainly was amazing to see the Patriots win 2 superbowls before then, that really made me feel privileged to see what professional Boston-area teams were doing. Being aware of late, older relatives and other people who were devoted to the Red Sox and went a lifetime without seeing a World Series trophy in Boston made me feel that I ought to appreciate what I had seen.

If I was privileged then, the feeling is certainly more so now--with another superbowl win (and possibly another "perfect" super bowl win) and another world series trophy.

I feel privileged and appreciative of what is happening and what has happened in the two sports I love for the two teams I love... because I know it can't last forever. Do I want more? Absolutely, the homer inside me does.... but it can't and won't last forever... for the good of both sports.
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The biggest change for me, is not only is my intense fandom being rewaded many times more than I could have ever imagined is the wearing of the colors. In the past on a Sunday game would go to a stop and shop and about 20-30%would be wearing the colors.. now it is about 60-70%. Yesterday I was in Dick's Sporting goods there were tables filled with t-shirts and sweatshirts.. in Modells about 1/4 of the store is filled with Pats gear.. people are not only buying it, but wearing it all over.. I used to feel somewhat alone in wearing pats stuff, now it is everywhere you look.

Consider in the 90's if you wanted Pats gear you might find one or two items in the Penney's catalog, now it is all over the place.. gas stations, the big box stores.. everywhere.
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Especially with all those championships won just about every year with your teams?
Just about every team? Only half of the teams in the Boston area have had success lately. (less than half if you want to count the Buffalo Bills of soccer, the New England Revolution). The Celts are good but they haven't won anything yet (and with Garnett having an abdominal strain, I expect them to lose a bunch of games while he's on the bench). Only the Sox and Pats have won championships in this decade.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:50 AM   #6
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Well, until '01 ('02, to be technical) we were pretty well-versed around here in the mentality of losing and absorbing crushing defeats.

We've lost the "lovable losers" and "oh, poor us" cards here, but frankly, I like the trade.

Now to ride the tide as long as we can before the dark times inevitably come again.
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So true! You can even go into a drug store and supermarket and be guaranteed of finding a whole rack of Pats merchandise. And I love dropping my kids off at Sunday school on game days and seeing a room full of little Patriot jerseys! (Hmm, maybe this is just Jewish Sunday school phenomenon, since the kids don't have to dress for church? My favorite was the day that was both a Pats game and a World Series game. Picture a big circle of six-year-olds doing the hora, all dressed as Tom Brady and Manny Ramirez.)
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Especially with all those championships won just about every year with your teams? How would you describe your neighbors et al? Satisfied? Spoiled? Want more and more?
Well, I moved to DC for college in 2003 and live there still, so all the recent Boston championships except the Pats' first, I have not been in New England. (The good fortune the teams have had after my departure is a decent argument against moving back). Given that, I can speak to the other side of the coin - being a New England fan elsewhere in the country. I would describe it best as "smug sense of satisfaction while trying to avoid the wrath of others." Not that I like to be smug, but given all the co-workers and friends I have who rag on our teams constantly, I have to be able to enjoy it a little.

I go to every Red Sox game in Baltimore each season, and to the Pats games whenever they're in the "area" (was at the MNF game in B-More, for example), and I can firmly assert that even outside of the areas you'd expect to hate Pats fans (NY, Indy, Pitt, etc), we are still not well loved. Of course, being hated because you root for a good team is a million times better than being ignored because you root for a bad one. [Note: When I say "not well loved", I should point out I'm not an obnoxious fan at all. At the Ravens game I sat there in a Patriots sweatshirt, cheering sure but not taunting or anything, and was still harassed. Of course, the looks on their faces as I was leaving made me glad I parked close)
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I think while the majority of true fans are appreciative of the times in which we are living, there has developed quite a fringe of bandwaggoners who are more arrogant and demanding than anything. Most of them were casual fans at best prior to the milenium dawning. Quite a few were still underage as this franchise came of age, and they know nothing but winning.

But for the real fans it's as if a decades long cloud has been lifted. No more mournful loser mentality, a lot less specter of doom - although it will take a generation to stamp out that mentality entirely (which the Sox even moreso than the Pats embued in many from birth) as you can see in our gameday threads, no more slumped shoulders at least on a regular basis. So it's true you see more people wearing the colors beyond gameday. They say you can't have it all, and the Bruins seem to be living proof of that adage, but by and large it's fun to be a sports fan in NE in the new milenium.
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It is a nightmare driving in Boston and now they keep having all these parades. Blocking traffic and everything. Those damn Duck Boats!

Don't go thinking Boston has lost its cynical edge.
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