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Non-Moss Pats thoughts from Mike and Mike, Weis, Salisbury
(1) They had Charlie Weis on (Greeny admits he hates Weis for helping to develop Brady ); Weis said that gusts up to 20 MPH really wouldn't hamper "Tommy's" passing.
(2) They also noted something that I haven't really allowed to penetrate my consciousness too deeply: at this point, the Patriots are not merely playing to win the Super Bowl, they're playing to make history. And yet, they are arguably the best team in sports history at ignoring past and present, and focusing on the game at hand, the play in progress, the lesson being taught in practice, etc. [I'm still not sure my brain has fully processed 16-0, let alone that other possibility. ]
(3) Sean Salisbury, breaking down the game, gave the edge on offense to the Pats, but gave the edge on D and ST to the Chargers. Especially funny is his logic for ST: "Well, the Pats don't punt very often* . . . Kaeding was a Pro Bowler last year** . . ."
*And that's a bad thing?
**Amazingly, Kaeding, who is now the most accurate FG kicker in NFL history--ahead of Vanderjerk--is only, ahem, 2 for 6 in the playoffs. He doesn't even kick off, either. And, oh yeah, his replacement on kickoffs can barely get to the end zone in a friggin' dome.
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Re: Non-Moss Pats thoughts from Mike and Mike, Weis, Salisbury
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**Amazingly, Kaeding, who is now the most accurate FG kicker in NFL history--ahead of Vanderjerk--is only, ahem, 2 for 6 in the playoffs. He doesn't even kick off, either. And, oh yeah, his replacement on kickoffs can barely get to the end zone in a friggin' dome.
Isn't Keading hurt? thought they said before the titans game that they had someone else doing the kickoffs cause keading had a hurt leg...not defending the guy, just trying to piece together the puzzle for this weekend.
Re: Non-Moss Pats thoughts from Mike and Mike, Weis, Salisbury
He has been hurt, they're saying (last I heard) Kaeding will be back to kicking off this week. Although with the bitter cold I'm not sure if that will change.
Field Goal percentage:
NE: 87.5% (8th) SD: 88.9% (6th)
Opp. Field Goal Percentage:
NE: 85.7% (20th) SD: 68.4% (2nd)
Net Punt Average:
NE: 39.7 (10th) SD: 42.3 (4th)
Opp Net Punt Average:
NE: 39.8 (20th) SD: 38.8 (14th)
Stats don't tell the whole story, but they beat us in all of them this year. I'd have to give the edge to SD too, unfortunately.
You are right, stats don't tell the whole story. Like the number of times the chargers punted or returned a kick vs. the number of times the Pats punted or returned a kick. The number of field goals Patriots opponents have attempted vs. the number the chargers opponents attempted, weather conditions... and so on and so forth...
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Re: Non-Moss Pats thoughts from Mike and Mike, Weis, Salisbury
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You are right, stats don't tell the whole story. Like the number of times the chargers punted or returned a kick vs. the number of times the Pats punted or returned a kick. The number of field goals Patriots opponents have attempted vs. the number the chargers opponents attempted, weather conditions... and so on and so forth...
Right, but the question I believe should be, in a vacuum, whose special teams are more effective. When they DO have to punt, the chargers have been better, when they DO have to kick a FG, they've been more successful, etc, etc.
The fact that the Patriots offense is so effective that it prevents those situations is not the question, because that again speaks to the strength of the offense itself, not the performance of the ST units.
EDIT: Except for the weather conditions part, that I will agree could be a factor. But still, if the Patriots DO have better ST, you'd think they'd win at least ONE of these categories, just by chance, regardless of conditions, wouldn't you?
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Re: Non-Moss Pats thoughts from Mike and Mike, Weis, Salisbury
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You are right, stats don't tell the whole story.
But your response doesn't tell ANY of the story... you can't just throw out stats without making a credible argument against them or substituting something else.
I would, though, like to see the average field position after kicking off and after receiving kickoffs before I fully decide SD is better, those stats are missing and are important.
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