OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game? - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-18-2008, 04:59 AM   #1
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,631
Default OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

As we are all aware the two QB's that are most often compared as being the best in the league are Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

This year Brady's broke Peyton's record for the most TDs. And it did appear that at times late in the season that Brady was forcing the ball to Moss so Moss would break his record.

On Saturday night Tom Brady set a record for highest % of completions in any regular or post season game. Although a QB's goal is always to complete all their passes, this record was broken because Jax in an effort to prevent the deep ball, would leave short routes open, and the short passing game was the best way to win.

On Sunday, Peyton Manning played a short yard passing game starting the game 14 for 14. And for a while appeared to be on the way to break Tom's record the day after he set it. However, the Bolts adjusted to Manning's style of play resulting incomplete passes and interceptions.
__________________
Citing the Bible as proof of God is like citing comic books to prove the existence of Superman.
TheGodInAGreyHoodie is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 01-18-2008, 05:26 AM   #2
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 267
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie View Post
As we are all aware the two QB's that are most often compared as being the best in the league are Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

This year Brady's broke Peyton's record for the most TDs. And it did appear that at times late in the season that Brady was forcing the ball to Moss so Moss would break his record.

On Saturday night Tom Brady set a record for highest % of completions in any regular or post season game. Although a QB's goal is always to complete all their passes, this record was broken because Jax in an effort to prevent the deep ball, would leave short routes open, and the short passing game was the best way to win.

On Sunday, Peyton Manning played a short yard passing game starting the game 14 for 14. And for a while appeared to be on the way to break Tom's record the day after he set it. However, the Bolts adjusted to Manning's style of play resulting incomplete passes and interceptions.
I highly doubt that Tom Brady's performance had any effect on how Peyton Manning played against the Chargers. I'm actually as close to certain as I can get without being inside Peyton Manning's head.
apricissimus is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 08:06 AM   #3
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
edzo44's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 524
My Mood: Happy
Post Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

1.) Peyton, is not, and has not, been jealous of Tom Brady's current assault on NFL stats. He's a Pro, this stats stuff goes with the territory. Nice but none ever seem to last forever.

2.) It had nothing to do with his performance against the Chargers.

3.) It was what it was - - - a loss - - - game over - - - done for the season. Root for and support Eli.

4.) The only stat Peyton now cares about is totally his to control and it should be his for all time. For sheer volume of, appearance in, and money earned on commercial endorsements he stands head and shoulders above Tom Brady and any other past or present NFL player. He is the Man!?!? No one will ever be able to top him in this aspect. My hat is off to him, he's the all time champ.
__________________
We've had a bunch of practices. We're going out there everyday. They're tired. They're sore. There's a little bit of information overload, but it is pro football. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy."

- - - Bill Belichick
edzo44 is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:14 AM   #4
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 340
Send a message via Yahoo to Cannon Arm
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGodInAGreyHoodie View Post
On Sunday, Peyton Manning played a short yard passing game starting the game 14 for 14. And for a while appeared to be on the way to break Tom's record the day after he set it. However, the Bolts adjusted to Manning's style of play resulting incomplete passes and interceptions.
The Chargers and Jags are similar defenses (big guys who are about strength over speed), and the strength of the Colts and strength of the Pats are at QB (throwing to receivers). It's understandable that the games would be similar. I also think that Addai not being as fresh as Maroney meant that the Colts didn't have the same options on offense as the Pats did.
__________________
"He said he was bringing something for Rodney Harrison. I don't know. Maybe it was the two dropped passes."
Cannon Arm is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:19 AM   #5
Rookie
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 22
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

Quote:
Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
I highly doubt that Tom Brady's performance had any effect on how Peyton Manning played against the Chargers. I'm actually as close to certain as I can get without being inside Peyton Manning's head.
Soon to theatres: BEING PEYTON MANNING

You know, with the little elevator? The something-and-a-half floor?

Anyone?
PatsGirl5 is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:22 AM   #6
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,378
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

Quote:
Originally Posted by edzo44 View Post
1.) For sheer volume of, appearance in, and money earned on commercial endorsements he stands head and shoulders above Tom Brady and any other past or present NFL player. He is the Man!?!? No one will ever be able to top him in this aspect. My hat is off to him, he's the all time champ.
A year back it had been reported that Brady turns down the overwhelming number of commercial offers made to him.

I would say after seeing the OREO commercial, that I would have a hard time believing Manning has ever said no to a commercial.

On a side note I think Manning is pretty funny, my favorite line being the "rub some dirt in it"
sarge is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:35 AM   #7
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,145
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

No...but Joseph Addai breaking down over the course of the year/lack of running game on Sunday combined with a hideous defense combined with two catches their receivers should have made cost the Colts.
JoePats is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:40 AM   #8
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 263
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

No. The Colts lost the game because of red zone interceptions, which can only be short passing and because Harrison fumbled. One was clearly not his fault (it was lucky/his RB). Had they scored on any of those drives, they win.

Even if we said that being more conservative in the passing game was the cause, we don't have any real reason to believe it had anything to do with Brady's completion %.
__________________
"All we do is win Superbowls." BB to Urban Meyer

Last edited by PantsB; 01-18-2008 at 09:41 AM..
PantsB is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:47 AM   #9
In the Starting Line-up
 
5 Rings for Brady!!'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,753
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

Quote:
Originally Posted by edzo44 View Post
1.) Peyton, is not, and has not, been jealous of Tom Brady's current assault on NFL stats. He's a Pro, this stats stuff goes with the territory. Nice but none ever seem to last forever.

2.) It had nothing to do with his performance against the Chargers.

3.) It was what it was - - - a loss - - - game over - - - done for the season. Root for and support Eli.

4.) The only stat Peyton now cares about is totally his to control and it should be his for all time. For sheer volume of, appearance in, and money earned on commercial endorsements he stands head and shoulders above Tom Brady and any other past or present NFL player. He is the Man!?!? No one will ever be able to top him in this aspect. My hat is off to him, he's the all time champ.
Brady earns a very similiar amount as Manning in advertising, but Brady chooses to work with upscale brands while Manning will stick his horsehead in front of any product on the market for relative chump change compared to what Brady earns per endorsement.
5 Rings for Brady!! is offline  
Old 01-18-2008, 09:58 AM   #10
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 
workhorse's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,447
Default Re: OT: Did Peyton's jealousy of Tom cost Colts the game?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5 Rings for Brady!! View Post
Brady earns a very similiar amount as Manning in advertising, but Brady chooses to work with upscale brands while Manning will stick his horsehead in front of any product on the market for relative chump change compared to what Brady earns per endorsement.

Since when is $5 a bottle cologne upscale?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
workhorse is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC