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Old 03-14-2011, 12:52 AM   #1
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More reason why the good to elite teams will probably continue to stay on top and the bad teams struggling to find a way out of the basement.

IF there is a season,that is
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:50 AM   #2
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More reason why the good to elite teams will probably continue to stay on top and the bad teams struggling to find a way out of the basement.

IF there is a season,that is
Which means the Jest get another big break to spend all their uncapped money on all those FA again, and with a possibly short season it is only going to be easier for them to win it all, and you know sex rexy won't care about not playing 16+ games to win a SB all he want is a WIN!!

Which means we HAVE to get better this year, short season or not, we are the one that has to stop the Jest, no matter what!
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Which means the Jest get another big break to spend all their uncapped money on all those FA again, and with a possibly short season it is only going to be easier for them to win it all, and you know sex rexy won't care about not playing 16+ games to win a SB all he want is a WIN!!

Which means we HAVE to get better this year, short season or not, we are the one that has to stop the Jest, no matter what!

cant do nothing about it. Also if and when the season resumes which will happen i think before the draft, the eliete eight rule applies from last year, you cant sign a fa unless you lose one... there will be a full season, once this injuction is heard the rules of last year will apply and the labor thing will play out in court... I think a deal will happen by the summer but the season will not be shorten or lost, it still sucks that it has come to this but both sides wanted the courts to settle it not by themselves... Now if the injunction is ruled in favor of the greedy owners, then all bets are off, hopefully the players come back to the table and hammer out a deal, but we just have another month of non football to talk about..
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cant do nothing about it. Also if and when the season resumes which will happen i think before the draft, the eliete eight rule applies from last year, you cant sign a fa unless you lose one... there will be a full season, once this injuction is heard the rules of last year will apply and the labor thing will play out in court... I think a deal will happen by the summer but the season will not be shorten or lost, it still sucks that it has come to this but both sides wanted the courts to settle it not by themselves... Now if the injunction is ruled in favor of the greedy owners, then all bets are off, hopefully the players come back to the table and hammer out a deal, but we just have another month of non football to talk about..
Are you sure about that? I think the elite 8 was only for the last year of the cba.
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Are you sure about that? I think the elite 8 was only for the last year of the cba.

I could be wrong, but the leauge will have to institue the rules of last year in place... which the eilte eight was part of the rules last year... and yes the pats would be in the eilete eight....
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That speculation doesn't make much sense since the owners already flatly refused that option as far back as a year ago even with the rookie cap thrown in as a sweetener... and all the other rules in place aside from the cap still open them to the same anti-trust scrutiny. The theory seems to be flawed in that respect, because merely prevailing in the lawsuit at tremendous cost by simply adhering to the terms of the final season of an expired CBA would represent a hollow victory and a losing financial proposition for the league and leave them in the same position going forward that they claim is untendable and facing the same lockout/decertification scenario in 2013.

If they implement work rules based on the last best offer including non core issues the union apparently agreed to during the course of mediation, they at least make more money for the duration of the process. Although some of them are on record stating that paying players at all while they are suing you is repeating a mistake that was made 22 years ago. And to counter that they would likely move ahead to the 18 game schedule which the expiring CBA allowed for without union consent... I wonder how much of that revenue the union would see absent a cap floor.

It doesn't even make sense as a projected outcome worth filing suit over unless De is full of it about his blather that half the league are veterans with 3-5 years of service and they are the one group aside from the owners who would be effectively screwed by the status quo...

I think speculation based on the injunction being granted is spinning wheels at this time because the owners appear to be on firm ground for mounting their sham defense and would likely appeal an initial ruling against them all the way to the supreme court taking up most of the summer before even contemplating taking a rope a dope strategy on the larger suit.
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The question is when a judge would order the league to have free agency (and to essentially proceed). While the judge could set any rules he wanted, I would not expect complicated rules such as the Rule of 8. I would simply expect free agency at some point, with no caps or floors.

However, I would not expect such a ruling to be effective until at least mid-June. I do expect free agency this year, perhaps in July, perhaps in August.
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The question is when a judge would order the league to have free agency (and to essentially proceed). While the judge could set any rules he wanted, I would not expect complicated rules such as the Rule of 8. I would simply expect free agency at some point, with no caps or floors.

However, I would not expect such a ruling to be effective until at least mid-June. I do expect free agency this year, perhaps in July, perhaps in August.
A judge isn't going to order FA or rewrite the rules of FA. One may grant an injunction against a lockout, or he may not. Then either side that loses will appeal his decision. That could drag out into late summer. If the league is ultimately ordered to unlock, they will proceed with the season on terms they decide. Those could be terms of the expired CBA, only in a cruel twist of fate those might actually be terms of the final season including no cap, no floor, 6 year FA and $11M per team less in benefits funding... Or those could be terms the owners choose based on their last best offer to the union. Then we play under those terms until rulings are made on the Brady (ugh) et al case and appealed at which time the union recertifies and a settlement is worked out based on those rulings... Last time that took years...
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A judge isn't going to order FA or rewrite the rules of FA. One may grant an injunction against a lockout, or he may not. Then either side that loses will appeal his decision. That could drag out into late summer. If the league is ultimately ordered to unlock, they will proceed with the season on terms they decide. Those could be terms of the expired CBA, only in a cruel twist of fate those might actually be terms of the final season including no cap, no floor, 6 year FA and $11M per team less in benefits funding... Or those could be terms the owners choose based on their last best offer to the union. Then we play under those terms until rulings are made on the Brady (ugh) et al case and appealed at which time the union recertifies and a settlement is worked out based on those rulings... Last time that took years...


So in your opinion would u as a fan hope for the judge to rule that the lockout should end, and yes i know it will have to go to appeals,and i remember that the leauge played for 5 years without a collective bargining deal.. Still feal after this ruling something will come together and cooler heads will pervail... but i think we are with out any football for at least the next month...
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Which means the Jest get another big break to spend all their uncapped money on all those FA again, and with a possibly short season it is only going to be easier for them to win it all, and you know sex rexy won't care about not playing 16+ games to win a SB all he want is a WIN!!

Which means we HAVE to get better this year, short season or not, we are the one that has to stop the Jest, no matter what!
The Jets ship has sailed. They made their run, fell short, and now are on the way back down again.
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