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Old 01-13-2008, 07:48 PM   #1
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dont know why ppl bash hobbs in here so much
but i guess you have to bash someone
anyway, ive always been a randall gay fan, but wow, he looked awful, giving a huge cushion time and time again
he did make one big play, on the fade to matt jones, but overall his play was very uninspirational, and left me hoping hobbs will return to his starting role very soon
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Your right. I actually missed Ellis Hobbs. Northcutt dropped a sure first down and may have gone into the endzone. I was happy that Northcutt dropped the ball but I was mad because Gay was beat again. Gay needs better coverage or else recievers will eventually make those grabs. Asante didn't play very well either. Good thing they all get a chance to play better next week.
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Your right. I actually missed Ellis Hobbs. Northcutt dropped a sure first down and may have gone into the endzone. I was happy that Northcutt dropped the ball but I was mad because Gay was beat again. Gay needs better coverage or else recievers will eventually make those grabs. Asante didn't play very well either. Good thing they all get a chance to play better next week.
speaking of asante, what exactly was he doing on that wilford td?
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dont know why ppl bash hobbs in here so much
but i guess you have to bash someone
anyway, ive always been a randall gay fan, but wow, he looked awful, giving a huge cushion time and time again
he did make one big play, on the fade to matt jones, but overall his play was very uninspirational, and left me hoping hobbs will return to his starting role very soon
jeez....talk about armchair athletes

Gay played CB,just as I expected....like a

nickleback,which is what he is.He was giving a cushion because that's the way nickle and dime cb's are taught.

He probably found out on thursday or friday
that he would be starting at cb and you guys
expect him to be Ty Law.

He tackles better than Hobbs and has better hands,too.

He did the best he could,IMO.

Wanna try Troy Brown out there?
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jeez....talk about armchair athletes

Gay played CB,just as I expected....like a

nickleback,which is what he is.He was giving a cushion because that's the way nickle and dime cb's are taught.

He probably found out on thursday or friday
that he would be starting at cb and you guys
expect him to be Ty Law.

He tackles better than Hobbs and has better hands,too.

He did the best he could,IMO.

Wanna try Troy Brown out there?
i dont think anyone was expecting randall to all of a sudden be the second coming of ty law, but a better performance was definitely not too much to ask
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speaking of asante, what exactly was he doing on that wilford td?
It looked to me like he was coming up to help play run stop on the Jags QB as he rolled to the right.....bad decision.
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I was watching on TV not at the game but from what I saw Gay was not out of position nearly as much as Asante was.

Gay was just beaten at times but he was in the right place and employing proper technique, he just doesn't have the pure talent to keep up with an NFL speed WR.
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Gay made two big defensive plays. I thought he did fine. The entire secondary was playing way off the receivers. It wasn't just Randall.
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It was clearly in the game plan to take away the run game and the deep ball. Unfortunately, that means that there was virtually no help on the shorter routes and over the deeper middle. Samuel, Hobbs, Gay - everyone's gonna get beat on the shorter routes like that in that type of scheme.

IMO, there were two potential big pass plays that we did/could have allowed.
1) the long pass to Wilford, but that was a broken play. Asante screwed up but I can understand.
2) the pass Northcutt dropped. Perfect throw, and Gay who had outside leverage was not able to recover.

I can live with that. I know you guys say that we got lucky. I think it's a calculated risk BB takes every week. Take away opposing offensive strengths and make them execute at what they're not as good/comfortable at repeatedly and eventually they'll make mistakes or become predictable (which allows the Pats coaching staff to make appropriate adjustments). Garrard and the Jags pass O was up for it for the first half, but not so much in the second half.
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Please. Randall Gay was awful in this game. Period. He got burnt all night. Asante was no better. I don't know if it was because of scheme, but Gay was just bad. I am hoping Hobbs can play this weekend at full strength.

For sure, Vincent Jackson scares me a bit. The guy is a freak, 6 foot 5 inches and is finally catching the ball.
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