ShrewBeer

Does anyone have an explanation for the secondary last night? the linebackers and linemen, and the offense played an awesome game, but the DBs did not show up last night. ive heard a lot of people say its a credit to david, but i call bs on that. if garrard was threading the needle like brady all night, i wouldnt have a problem with it, as there is no defense against something like that. however, there were recievers wide open on a constistant basis.

i understand that we only gave up twenty points, and the second half was only 6 points. but the secondary could not cover last night. and dont try to tell me that its because we committed to the run. when you commit to the run, you still have the capability to not leave guys 10 yards open on third and fourth downs all game

i dont think i have ever seen the pats dbs cover so terribly. asante looked like a rookie, gay looked like he was a retard, and the rest of them were chickens running around with their heads cut off.

now i'm not saying that this has been a reoccurring thing, or that i think that it will happen next week. i have confidence that bill will fix whatever it was. im just looking for an explanation, a reason, something. because i know our secondary is better than that.

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FrontSeven

I think we have to acknowledge that no secondary is going to shut down a good offense to the satisfaction of fans. Yes, at times they got tooled. But no, not in the second half, and I think you don't realize how good they were to shut down that offense in that half.

I also think it's totally ungenerous of you to tear down Garrard in any way whatsoever. He made great throws, he's indestructible in the pocket, and he is very smart, very accurate, very cool under pressure. What the HELL are you demanding of a QB that you did not see last night? This is insanity. We have one of the best teams in the history of the league and you can find one bad thing to say about Garrard?

Who are his receivers?

You don't understand the game or you wouldn't be removing the credit from Garrard's performance. Garrard was beaten, eventually, by a defense that is far better than you suspect.

Patriots Nation NY

I'm with ya.. Take a look at the 2004 team SB DVD.. Now that was a defense..

oldskool138

Well, if Asante didn't have such a stinker of a game, it wouldn't have been that close.

All the credit in the world goes to Garrard. He made some big-time plays in that game.

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Number Cruncher

Gotta give him a little credit... some of those throws were right on the button....

The Northcup drop at the two.
The 2nd Touchdown at the side of the endzone.

A few others.....

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PATSYLICIOUS

i agree the secondary was attrocious last night and guys were wide open alot.

but garrard is still the truth. he made some great throws last night. the 2nd td pass with jarvis green in his face. the shouldve been 3rd td pass which was dropped, under heavy pressure and he hit his man right in stride. the first td pass when he was being dragged down. some of his moves in the pocket to avoid the rush. and the list goes on. he was fantastic last night

dtbrks

He made some good throws.

Also, him buying time and then throwing completions is all him. He ran around, broke tackles and made plays, if that isn't his doing, then I don't know what is.

Lampshade

Welcome to the board, Reggie Nelson.

You shouldn't take anything away from Garrard. A number of those receivers were "wide open" due to him avoiding the rush, and forcing the DBs to cover for far too long.

PatsFanSince74

shrewb makes some good points. was i the only one who thought that asante was missing a step most of the game? thank goodness rodney et al stepped up big...

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ShrewBeer

agreed that no secondary is going to shut down an offense to the satisfaction of fans.
however, i dont think you understood me when i said "i cannot give garrard credit." it did not mean that he was a toolbag, it was meant to say that his greatness last night shouldnt have been great, but average. the point of the thread was not to rip garrard.
as for you saying the defense that is far better than i suspect, didnt i say "because i know our secondary is better than that"? did you read my post, or did you just read the thread title?

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