Strength & Conditioning Coach Mike Woicik moving on to Dallas - New England Patriots Forums

***DarrylS*** · 02-09-2011, 11:00 AM

Apparently our Strength and Conditioning Coach may be moving on?? IN the past he has received mucho praise from many of the players, is this a good thing or a bad thing??

Hope Bill does not think he can do this job also

Cowboys may hire Pats' strength coach - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

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After 11 seasons with the New England Patriots, strength and conditioning coach Mike Woicik could be headed back to the Dallas Cowboys, sources told ESPNDallas and ESPNBoston.

Woicik is scheduled to fly in to Dallas Wednesday to talk to the Cowboys.

Woicik is the only player or coach with six Super Bowl rings, having won three with Dallas (1992, '94-95) and three with Patriots (2001, '03-04). He was the Cowboys strength coach from 1990-96 before spending the next three years in New Orleans. The Cowboys were 89-38 during his seven seasons, including 12 playoff wins.

Marqui · 02-09-2011, 11:03 AM

It's a very bad thing.

JackBauer · 02-09-2011, 11:05 AM

Corwin Brown is out as secondary coach, as well. Although that appears to be more a move of the "firing" variety.

Woicik receives a lot of praise; then again, the Patriots consistently seem to have endemic injury issues. Not sure if the two are at all related.

signbabybrady · 02-09-2011, 11:40 AM

This is a scary. You cant argue with 6 rings. one or two maybe you can say he was in the right place but I think it has hard to say he didnt have a big role in the 6.

I know the players have praised him alot through the years and one has to wonder how much the players would trust and buy into the new guy.

On the flip side maybe getting a new guy in with a different approach gets these guys working different areas and muscles.

signbabybrady · 02-09-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JackBauer

Woicik receives a lot of praise; then again, the Patriots consistently seem to have endemic injury issues. Not sure if the two are at all related.

Maybe you are onto something there as injuries would seem to be directly related to strength and conditioning not that you can fully blame that as it is a physical sport.

But I have come to think that the "endemic injury issues" are more a BB philosophy than anything else. I think he doesnt like waiting out injuries very much and I think he is real quick to the trigger on IR. Guy goes down unless there is a specific or short timeline he is likely to be IRed. This likely ties to his philosphies of having a strong middle class and roster top to bottom he feels he has the depth why waste the roster spot.

***BelichickFan*** · 02-09-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by signbabybrady

This is a scary. You cant argue with 6 rings.

Raporort's blog linked Heath Evans as saying this :

Twitter / Heath Evans: @RapSheet Harold Nash shou ...

"Harold Nash should already be a head strength coach somewhere in the NFL or at an elite D1 program! He's a GREAT COACH!!"

He's the assistant, I assume he'll be promoted and sounds like we'll be in good hands.

Rapoport also suggested that there could be some coaching staff tweaks announced today.

signbabybrady · 02-09-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

Raporort's blog linked Heath Evans as saying this :

Twitter / Heath Evans: @RapSheet Harold Nash shou ...

"Harold Nash should already be a head strength coach somewhere in the NFL or at an elite D1 program! He's a GREAT COACH!!"

He's the assistant, I assume he'll be promoted and sounds like we'll be in good hands.

Rapoport also suggested that there could be some coaching staff tweaks announced today.

Thanks for the reminder I have heard players praise Nash as well and it does seem as though we would be in good hands should Woicik leave and sometimes it can be better to have the protege than the master (see BB).

Still scary to think another 6 rings are walking out the door though.

JackBauer · 02-09-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by signbabybrady

Maybe you are onto something there as injuries would seem to be directly related to strength and conditioning not that you can fully blame that as it is a physical sport.

But I have come to think that the "endemic injury issues" are more a BB philosophy than anything else. I think he doesnt like waiting out injuries very much and I think he is real quick to the trigger on IR. Guy goes down unless there is a specific or short timeline he is likely to be IRed. This likely ties to his philosphies of having a strong middle class and roster top to bottom he feels he has the depth why waste the roster spot.

Very true. It could also be that the Patriots are more or less consistently unlucky.

***DarrylS*** · 02-09-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by signbabybrady

Maybe you are onto something there as injuries would seem to be directly related to strength and conditioning not that you can fully blame that as it is a physical sport.

But I have come to think that the "endemic injury issues" are more a BB philosophy than anything else. I think he doesnt like waiting out injuries very much and I think he is real quick to the trigger on IR. Guy goes down unless there is a specific or short timeline he is likely to be IRed. This likely ties to his philosphies of having a strong middle class and roster top to bottom he feels he has the depth why waste the roster spot.

Always thought the injuries were a part of an extended schedule see Indy and NOLA this year.. seems that someone should do a longitudinal study of how many games are played the year before and whether it impacts the players on IR the next.

Triumph · 02-09-2011, 12:51 PM

Wonder what Sal Alosi is doing these days?