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Old 01-29-2011, 09:00 PM   #101
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Samuel was Belichicks decision.
Samuel was not worth the money. Understanding that BB accpeted a dropoff at his position rather than oher dropoffs, or missed opportunities to improve at other positons.
In a Pollyanna world we could say we should have kept Samuel because he wasn't replaced with as good a player, but there are numerous other factors that are too interrelated to ignore.
For the love of god IT WAS A KRAFT DECISION and was pretty much confirmed by Jonathan Kraft on the radio with a give and take with Felger about a year ago when Felger kept hammering him and basically he said maybe if he "Samuel" had made that interception in that superbowl, he caught himself it was too late bingo! checkmate! your exposed. Look at this point it doesn't matter if they sign Mankins it doesn't matter the way the do business with their better players sucks and every dog has his day and their's is coming. I became a season ticket holder the day Parcell's came here but he knew what he was talking about when it came to the Krafts meddling, so you let Mankins go then what replace him with a draft pick They need to replace the center and the right guard thats how teams that have been successful against them attack them up the middle.
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Yeah ... let's pay an all-pro guard who was exposed in the playoffs ... let's pay him top dollar for the all pro run blocker that he is. He's not getting paid and Belichick is smart enough not to pay him or any other non impact player top dollar.
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Yeah ... let's pay an all-pro guard who was exposed in the playoffs ... let's pay him top dollar for the all pro run blocker that he is. He's not getting paid and Belichick is smart enough not to pay him or any other non impact player top dollar.
how was it that mankins was exposed? if anything, it was connolly and koppen.
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Yeah ... let's pay an all-pro guard who was exposed in the playoffs ... let's pay him top dollar for the all pro run blocker that he is. He's not getting paid and Belichick is smart enough not to pay him or any other non impact player top dollar.
They were willing to pay him 7 mil a year right so what are you talking about and if they franchise him it will be atleast 11 mil a year. Belichick doesn't control the money its the Krafts don't you get it. What do you think this CBA unrest is all about. The owners don't have to play a game this year and still get a check from the networks for 100 mil and this happens every year so why play any games except this time if they screw it up and with the economy the way it is they will pay the price. As far as NE fans we are like the the soap opera show the Days Of our Lives the sand clock is running and I will predict the Krafts will sell the team after they have siphoned as much as they can and move on.
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For the love of god IT WAS A KRAFT DECISION and was pretty much confirmed by Jonathan Kraft on the radio with a give and take with Felger about a year ago when Felger kept hammering him and basically he said maybe if he "Samuel" had made that interception in that superbowl, he caught himself it was too late bingo! checkmate! your exposed. Look at this point it doesn't matter if they sign Mankins it doesn't matter the way the do business with their better players sucks and every dog has his day and their's is coming. I became a season ticket holder the day Parcell's came here but he knew what he was talking about when it came to the Krafts meddling, so you let Mankins go then what replace him with a draft pick They need to replace the center and the right guard thats how teams that have been successful against them attack them up the middle.
Allrighty then
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at some point, winning football games should be more important than just saving money.
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at some point, winning football games should be more important than just saving money.
Have you ever heard the term, salary cap?
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Given that they've gotten rid of Samuel and Seymour, with terrible results, sarcasm regarding Mankins really doesn't hold up.
What exactly were the terrible results? We lost when it mattered most in 2007 with all three of these studs plus the once in a lifetime WR on the roster...failing to execute. We've lost since with one after another of them gone after similar failures. However in 2008 we weren't going to win anyway with Brady on IR for 15 weeks, and we weren't going to win in 2009 with Brady rehabbing from his ACL and Welker blowing his out and guys like Rodney and Tedy heading to the sidelines, and while we didn't win this year even with Brady turning in an MVP performance sans Moss, we had a $135M cap so it's ridiculous to think we could have fielded a team with any let alone all of them on it on top tier deals and done any better...because of the $35M+ in trade offs we'd have had to make to keep them.

What Kraft and Belichick have agreed on from the outset was the importance of maintaining long range perspective with the ultimate goal of fielding a competitive team every season. They have done that and more, but for some here nothing short of winning it all every season equates to terrible results. I chalk that up to arrogance, hype fed ignorance and lack of remotely rational perspective. Terrible results would be falling off to sub .500 oblivion and remaining there for a good long while because of a wildly mismanaged cap, coupled with a bloated roster and bad drafting. When these guy do that call me and I'll be right there with you biatching...
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