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I know he isn't declaring this year and Brady still has 4-5 yrs left of good football, but what does everyone here think about him? More importantly, should he declare next year, should we ATTEMPT to trade up and get him? He seems like an all around safe/solid pick. Good intangibles, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford, and knows how to win. I know BB has never drafted any QBs higher than the 3rd round (Kevin O' Connell), but in my mind, grabbing a quality QB like Luck would almost ensure that the Patriots remain SB contenders, or at the very least, playoff contenders, for many years to come. Plus, after this years draft/FA, we SHOULD have all of our needs addressed so we could afford to trade up using multiple picks next year.
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I know he isn't declaring this year and Brady still has 4-5 yrs left of good football, but what does everyone here think about him? More importantly, should he declare next year, should we ATTEMPT to trade up and get him? He seems like an all around safe/solid pick. Good intangibles, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford, and knows how to win. I know BB has never drafted any QBs higher than the 3rd round (Kevin O' Connell), but in my mind, grabbing a quality QB like Luck would almost ensure that the Patriots remain SB contenders, or at the very least, playoff contenders, for many years to come. Plus, after this years draft/FA, we SHOULD have all of our needs addressed so we could afford to trade up using multiple picks next year.
Who knows where he'll be by the time next year comes around. I remember when Matt Leinhart and Jake Locker were sure-fire first overall picks and both stayed in college, only to have some major flaws exposed.
I don't think it's a bad idea to draft someone Aaron Rodgers style and groom them into the position, but that said, why would you draft someone like Luck whose biggest selling point is his immediate readiness to play in the NFL?
Who knows where he'll be by the time next year comes around. I remember when Matt Leinhart and Jake Locker were sure-fire first overall picks and both stayed in college, only to have some major flaws exposed.
I don't think it's a bad idea to draft someone Aaron Rodgers style and groom them into the position, but that said, why would you draft someone like Luck whose biggest selling point is his immediate readiness to play in the NFL?
I think he made a mistake by staying at Stanford, the only reason Locker is still in the top 5 is because of the weak QB class...he got lucky. Luck already seems NFL ready though.
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I know he isn't declaring this year and Brady still has 4-5 yrs left of good football, but what does everyone here think about him? More importantly, should he declare next year, should we ATTEMPT to trade up and get him? He seems like an all around safe/solid pick. Good intangibles, played in a pro-style offense at Stanford, and knows how to win. I know BB has never drafted any QBs higher than the 3rd round (Kevin O' Connell), but in my mind, grabbing a quality QB like Luck would almost ensure that the Patriots remain SB contenders, or at the very least, playoff contenders, for many years to come. Plus, after this years draft/FA, we SHOULD have all of our needs addressed so we could afford to trade up using multiple picks next year.
So to get Luck next year, the Patriots would have to trade out of the 2011 draft using two very high picks in order to have 3 #1s available to secure the #1 pick in the draft in 2012. Then the Patriots will redshirt him for a few years as the MVP finishes up on the contract extension he signed just months ago.
So to summarize: Two high draft picks will NOT make the 2011 team better...and 3 very high draft picks from 2012 draft condensed into one QB will not be a part of the starting lineup until 2015.
Seems I neglected the tens of millions of dollars that the bench warming QB will be paid waiting for Brady to get hurt.
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Personally I think that given the constraints of the salary cap - and you can be sure it will return - you just can't afford to allocate that high a percentage of your cap space for three or four years as a backup.
As for O'Connell I never understood the Pats using a 3rd round pick on a backup QB when it happened.
If Brady does indeed have four or five good years left in him as you suggest, by the time Luck gets to play he could decide to walk away as a free agent! And though he could improve with that much time learning the system, he could also get rusty from such a long time with little or no real playing time.
On top of that it's not as if the Pats will absolutely have all their needs filled this year. Performance of other players will decline due to age or injuries; others will walk away as free agents; and some just won't be as productive as we had hoped they would. I'm sure in 2011 the team will have one or two pressing needs that need to be addressed and upgraded next year too.
We'll have to wait and see what the team's situation is then, but as of right now I would think there will be better options.
You'd have to give up the entire draft and then some to get him, and then he'd sit on the bench. No, you don't do it.
The kid goes to Stanford. There's something to be said about an education at one of the elite institutions in the entire world. You can't replicate that. Once you leave a place like that, you leave for good. There's no going back 10 years later. Nor are there any thing such as correspondence or summer classes in your major at a place like that.
Luck seems like a very tough player. I like that aspect of his game. Is he worth the #1 overall pick? I don't know. His stock can only drop from here on out. Now if he drops into 2nd round territory and only has a ho hum season but still displays good intangibles would I be interested? Yes. As long as his flaws aren't too huge that he couldn't be coached. But I wouldn't draft a 1st round QB right now.
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