MoLewisrocks

That's essentially what Ty Law told Borges when he stated Tom was confused. Ty said if he was he'd have thrown 5 picks. That was what sent Borges back to the film and his conclusion that no one was getting open with any consistency (and when they did it was either too late, in the wrong place or they didn't make a play - including drops). What Brady was was stymied, and he's been conditioned not to make stupid mistakes just for the sake of trying to make something happen... They weren't prepared for the defense the JETS mounted, and they aren't presently built to counter it, let alone on the fly. And in the end they also couldn't play complimentary football because they didn't have a defense that could make multiple stops at critical junctures or a ST unit that could make a gamechanging play (short of negatively).

Bill has to some extent been a little stubborn about adapting to what he likely sees as the handful of teams with the personnel and coaching accumen to do what Spags and Mangini/Ryan or Rex have been able to do because until now you encountered those teams so infrequently outside of the occasional regular season tilt it wasn't necessarily something you couldn't otherwise scheme around. Hopefully encountering them more frequently of late will cause him to rethink his approach.

RayClay

Given that we almost flawlessly marched down the field twice, which would have given us a tremendous likelihood of repeating our success formula, and put the grind it out, mediocre QB jets at a big disadvantage, had we not made two crucial errors, couldn't we just say we had the type of game we wanted had we executed?

Rather than Ryan having our number, didn't he really either fail miserably, or fail to implement, his game plan for two drives, then successfully implement it only when we changed the type of game from a 10-14 point Patriot lead on the way to another blowout, to a low scoring defensive battle favoring a team like the Jets?

Or is that just too simple an explanation?

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RayClay

Moss was a bad fit for our offense it seems, though i appreciate what he did here.

However, a better Branch type receiver, given Branch is not a premier athlete now (still valuable though) and a better or improved Tate, or another receiver and maybe we break that defense.

Also, a RB who could make them pay by breaking the bank, not in easy monthly installments.

This is not a criticism of our current personnel. Before "it is what it is", the Parcells saying was "you are what you are."

Any team can be beat by a good game plan, well executed.

1. We marched down the field easily twice and blew both opportunities. 2. Playing the jets style , a grind it out close game, we encountered the 3. best CB in football and another capable man defender. 4. Rex got to implement one of the many schemes he's been dreaming of because he's obsessed with us (as we have been with the Colts etc over the years).

The individual athletes that might have exploited his scheme were an underachieving (so far) WR (Tate) and a less athletic, older, WR with serious knee injury issues recently.

Or two street free agent RBs/3rd down backs.

Rex gambled those athletes were not going to go wild.

All those factors put together allowed a win still in doubt until the late stages.

The other alternative would have been to eliminate all crossing patterns and our short passing offense and design a new offense at half time. Obviously, a key play here or there would have helped.

Sometimes, when a number of factors in, or beyond your control come together, you simply get beat.

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condon84

Rex became the DC for the Ravens in 05 and only played Brady just once, in 07 as a DC. Against the Jets, Brady has played 5 times against Rex's defense. Here are his stats below:

Ravens 07
18-38, 257YDS, 2TD, 1INT

Jets 09
1st game: 23-47, 216YDS, 0TD, 1INT
2nd game: 28-41, 310YDS, 1TD, 0INT

Jets 10
1st game: 20-36, 248YDS, 2TD, 2INT
2nd game: 21-29, 326YDS, 4TD, 0INT
3rd game: 29-45, 299YDS, 2TD, 1INT

Avg for all 6 games:
Comp %: 59
YDS: 276
TD: 1.8 (let's round it to 2)
INT: .8 (let's round it to 1)

Compare those averages to the 45-3 game Brady had where he threw and completed 72% of his passes, 50 yards over his average, 2 TDs over his average, and thew no picks at all when he was averaging 1 pick per game. If that game was not a deviation from his averages, then maybe you should explain what you think anomaly means.

RayClay

Remember when we had Peyton's number? Before this year we had lost 5 of the previous six meetings (correct me if I'm wrong, it's something like that.

Great coaches with great athletes are drafting and scheming to beat each other constantly. Do Rex and Ratgini (if he's back) put much more effort into designing teams and plays to beat us? Yes. Rex for obvious reasons, we're in his way. ratgini because he's a bottom feeder and beating us is worth a half season of mediocrity.

This game isn't easy, folks. You have to work harder than the other guy and the jets haven't been worth scheming against because they haven't provided a consistent successful model like Brady has.

You know, replying to a tough loss with a 45-3 win isn't too bad. Give Ryan credit (and us discredit for blowing two nearly perfect drives) when we gave his team life and confidence, he had a pretty damn good scheme that will likely affect how we draft this year.

Also lost in the bluster is the fact our D line was quite depleted giving his ball control offense the opportunity to make us adjust to the run (after we let them off the hook point wise) giving his mediocre QB a chance to look good.

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upstater1

I thought you were referring to his performance in terms of winning losing, performing well, etc. Yes, 45-3 is an anomaly, obviously. If it weren't, the league would implode if one team won games repeatedly 45-2 for 5 years.

But having a 2-to-1 TD to interception ratio, throwing for 276 yards average, going 3-3, this is NOT what I would call having someone's number.

MoLewisrocks

Almost only counts in horse shoes Ray. We showed them a little something they weren't expecting after benching Wes for the first series. I think if anything that gave most of us and perhaps them a false sense of accomplishment. But that also left us trying to throw what should have been an easy screen to a player who hasn't been targeted often in the passing game this season, and a JET was there. They began to adjust to us as the second drive unfolded, and it ended in part because we were left throwing the ball to Brady's 4th or 5th option because he was the only open receiver, but he hasn't caught a lot of balls this season. Had we made a better decision or better play in those situations might the JETS have been unable to maintain discipline as hope faded, sure. But we didn't make those plays and in fact we even managed to compound our errors before the half ended. And by then as a result Brady was feeling even more pressure to not make another bad decision.

Rex game plan required them slowing us down, not shutting us out. It worked well enough from the outset to level the playing field and shorten the game. 45-3 was more of an anomoly than 28-21. Rex tried to be something they couldn't on offense at the same time they lost their signal caller on defense, and it backfired. Once Rex went back to being what they are it was enough - even though we changed up our offense after week 2. Rex had 12 weeks to decipher it and he believed he had the horses to stop that offense, too. I don't think Belichick anticipated he did. Or if he did he simply decided that either our offense would carry the day or it would be one long day...unless we could force the JETS offense into taking risks and making mistakes. And absent pressure from our offense, our defense couldn't force them to do that. The best way I see to combat that is to build a defense that can force mistakes on it's own and make stops. And by winning the #'s battles at the LOS on both sides of the ball.

Or we could just continue to scheme around our shortcomings and hope for flawless execution...

We have the ammo to eliminate most of our shortcomings. I hope we finally use it.