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Early last year, we made the case that a win by the Colts in Super Bowl XLIV could put quarterback Peyton Manning on track to be known as the undisputed best ever, since he would be 2-0 in the games that matter most and on track to take all of Brett Favre’s career records (except the one previously held by George Blanda). When the Colts lost, the debate remained a topic on which reasonable minds could differ, with some folks lining up behind stats masters like Favre and Marino and others focusing on lords of the rings like Montana and Bradshaw and others considering men with a mixture of both, like Elway and Manning.
By the time his career ends, Tom Brady could be the one to unite both camps. He has three Super Bowl wins, he’s working on his fourth, and there’s a sense that he could end up with five. While his excellent 2010 season falls short statistically when compared to an uncanny 2007, Brady still had one of the best all-time performances this year, with a passer rating of 111.0, 3,900 yards on the nose, 36 touchdowns, and only four interceptions.
He has said he plans to play into his early 40s. He seems to be getting even more intense with age. And his lost season of 2008 due to a Week One ACL tear has given him a genuine appreciation of the possibility that it can all go away at any given time, so he gives all that he has on every snap.
For now, we’re not declaring Brady the best ever. But based on the way he is playing this year, he could finally provide some clarity to a question that currently has no answer on which a majority of NFL fans and followers can agree.
I've always thought if TB would already have #4 the mainstream media would be more receptive to this debate because it's a lot closer than people want to admit IMO.
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I've always thought if TB would already have #4 the mainstream media would be more receptive to this debate because it's a lot closer than people want to admit IMO.
Nope. Montana coming out of the 3rd was one thing. Brady as a 6th rounder they panned matched with the HC they equally reluctantly find themselves having to acknowledge as a GOAT candidate after mocking him early on as well will always have to do exponentially more than a chosen one like Manning who seemingly did it all by hisself... Prolific regular season empty stats are just more heavily weighted than winning championships. Like Boomer said yesterday Tommy's gonna hafta win one for the thumb...topping an entire franchise's accomplishments with multiple QB's...
Marshall Faulk said Brady has less pressure to win than Manning cos he was a 6th round pick and Manning was a 1st round pick. WAHAHAHAHAHAHA... what a DB. I enjoyed watching Gameday morning yesterday as Faulk looked super uncomfortable around all the Patriots love.
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Marshall Faulk said Brady has less pressure to win than Manning cos he was a 6th round pick and Manning was a 1st round pick. WAHAHAHAHAHAHA... what a DB. I enjoyed watching Gameday morning yesterday as Faulk looked super uncomfortable around all the Patriots love.
What in the world was the context for him saying such a thing?
I really don't think draft position has anything to do with it. It's based on performance, and it's hard to argue against TFB in any way. Especially if the post-season plays out the way we hope.
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Marshall Faulk said Brady has less pressure to win than Manning cos he was a 6th round pick and Manning was a 1st round pick. WAHAHAHAHAHAHA... what a DB. I enjoyed watching Gameday morning yesterday as Faulk looked super uncomfortable around all the Patriots love.
Wow, Marshall Faulk is so flat-out dumb it's a wonder he can make it to set in the morning. Right Marshall...I guess that contract extension Brady signed doesn't bring any pressure/responsibility with it....
As for GOAT talk, that's premature. Leave it to Colts fans to make judgments after the regular season. The real season is just beginning.
Marshall Faulk said Brady has less pressure to win than Manning cos he was a 6th round pick and Manning was a 1st round pick. WAHAHAHAHAHAHA... what a DB. I enjoyed watching Gameday morning yesterday as Faulk looked super uncomfortable around all the Patriots love.
I was embarrased for him. His other ammo was that Manning and Montana had to build bad teams into good ones while Brady was handed one. Right. They were 5-11 his rookie year in which he only appeared once I think and they were 0-2 when he became the Patriots starter in 01....that's an impressive 5-13 team he inherrited Marshall.
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I was embarrased for him. His other ammo was that Manning and Montana had to build bad teams into good ones while Brady was handed one. Right. They were 5-11 his rookie year in which he only appeared once I think and they were 0-2 when he became the Patriots starter in 01....that's an impressive 5-13 team he inherrited Marshall.
It still amazes me that he can dress himself in the morning and brush his teeth.
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Irvin had a good point. Manning's pressure as a 1st round pick was to win. Brady's pressure as a 6th round pick was not to get cut everyday. So Brady had to seize his chance right away and had no room for failure.
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lol, the tragedy is that Faulk is smart and is a good analyst when it comes to non-Patriot things.
Brady actually had a lot more pressure. Everyone knows that a team would stick with the overall 1st pick for a few years jut because of the size of the investment no matter what (e.g. Russel & Leaf). While, Brady was an afterthought 6th rounder (comp pick at that) who had a former 1st overall and 100 million dollar QB breathing down his neck in his first season as a starter. So, Brady definitely had more pressure.
However, once they both became established, they both have equal pressure to succeed.
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PFT: TFB could be the GOAT?
Prolific regular season empty stats are just more heavily weighted than winning championships. Like Boomer said yesterday Tommy's gonna hafta win one for the thumb...topping an entire franchise's accomplishments with multiple QB's...
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