capetide

Voted for Woodhead. Don't know if it's because LT is disappearing more and more as the season progresses or just because I can't stand Mr. Classy.

eagle eye

Absolutely love Danny Woodhead but I'm not a big enough homer to vote for him in a poll like this. I'd much prefer to have the experience of Tomlinson heading into the playoffs which makes him far more valuable imo.

__________________
Fun fight game, no expertise needed and free with no catches

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

ctpatsfan77

This experience?

__________________
"Momentum was quickly snatched away by New England, who once again proved that any Patriot, at any moment, can make a play." —Inside the NFL, Packers v. Patriots

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

ausbacker

For the role that we required it has to be Woodhead.

Tippecanoe

Mini digression, but anyone else notice who had the worst rushing DYAR on the 20-99 rushes list?

patsfan-1982

i love Woodhead, and im happy he is on the team he is great replacement for Kevin Faulk, but it hard for me to say he has more talent then LT even at this point in he's career.



Danny Woodhead, is haveing a career year with all most 800 total yerds and 5 TD's LaDainian Tomlinson, worst year was last year with 884 total yerds and 12 TD's he is a HOF player. Woodhead, is a good 3rd down RB and a nice story but IMO you can't compare them

BradyFTW!

To be fair, it isn't exactly a fair comparison. Woodhead is pretty specifically used only in situations where his efficiency will be maximized. LT is the lead running back on a team that runs to set up the pass. On the basis of that alone, FO's stats are misleading in a direct comparison, and Tomlinson gets a pretty massive edge in my comparison. In fact, that alone is pretty much why I chose Tomlinson. Take the same exact RB and he'll be far more valuable to the Jets than to the Pats. The Pats have proven that they can win with pretty much anyone running the ball.

I like Woodhead a lot, but even as a dual threat third down specialist, LT is probably better, speaking strictly in terms of talent. He's also a crybaby egomaniac who would never fit in with the Pats' team culture, though. He's perfect for the Jets, though, and even then the real question is why they kept Clowney and McKnight over Woodhead. Clowney over Woodhead was just an incredibly shortsighted move: massive overreaction to the 10-9 week 1 loss and not having Santonio Holmes available until week 5.

Kasmir

Through 14 games Woodhead' has had only 80 carries and 39 catches in 48 targets. His production per touch is the best of any running back in the NFL this year. Tomlinson is past his prime and is having a much better year than last year, but nothing extraordinary.

LT's last good year was 2007, when he rushed 315-1474 with 15 TDs, and caught 60-475 for 3 TDs. If you project Woodhead's performance this year with the same number of touches, he'd be 315-1671 with 15 TDs, and 68-610 and 2 TD's receiving. Only LT's career year of 2006 was better than that. So Danny's is putting up elite numbers with the chances he's had.

So, yeah, I think it would be a big downgrade to have traded Danny for this year's LT.

And why should we consider Woodhead's first year playing to be his career year? Can't we give Woodhead a pass for his rookie year, given that he went on injured reserve in training camp? He spent his second year on the bench (after rushing for 158 yards in the final preseason game) -- just like Brady spent his first year on the bench, too.

And Woodhead is *not* just a 3rd down back. He's playing more and more on first down now, and his best runs have *not* been primarily 3rd down draws. He's a classic old-style scatback with surprising strength for his size. Run him from scrimmage 20 times a game behind a good zone blocking scheme and he'll easily average over 100 yards per game. He holds the NCAA all-division record for 200+ and 300+ yard games. He looks pretty durable.

Forget his credentials and apparent limitations. Danny has brought his game to the NFL, and it works here pretty much like it's worked everywhere. Maybe he'll fall to earth, but the evidence on the field is backed by the stats: Danny Woodhead is "breaking out" before our very eyes.

BradyFTW!

And there's the flaw in the logic that you're using, IMO. You can't assume that Woodhead's performance would stay at its current level over a larger number of touches. He's already touching the ball only in situations that are optimized for his success. That's not a knock on him: it's a compliment to Bill Belichick, who understands how to use his players efficiently. Woodhead almost never runs the ball against a defense that is intent on stopping the run. He takes the field almost entirely in pass-first formations, and exploits the fact that the defense is first and foremost preoccupied with stopping Brady. He's a good player, but if you asked him to carry the ball 315 teams, he wouldn't get anything even close to 1400 yards, and that's assuming that he could carry the ball 315 times (he couldn't).

The Jets' don't currently have an equivalent for how we use Woodhead, because they don't have nearly as much use as we do for a back like that. BJGE is a far better comparison to how the Jets use LT, and even that isn't really fair. You just can't overestimate how beneficial it is to a RB to play in an offense where Brady, Welker, and our TEs are all on the field. Brady makes every down a potential passing down, and the same can't really be said for Sanchez. Half the time that LT runs, everyone in the building knows he's about to run.

Guys like Woodhead require vision, adaptability, and creativity on the part of the coaching staff to effectively utilize. It's no surprise that the Jets couldn't get anything out of him, while the Pats have made him an integral part of the best offense in the NFL. OTOH, LT could step into pretty much any offense and produce. The one major negative on him at this point in his career is that he has a ton of mileage on him, so he wears down over the course of the year if you don't limit his carries (as we're seeing now. Shonn Greene's disappearance is doubly killing the Jets by breaking LT down). The same can be said for Woodhead, though, for different reasons. There isn't a team in the league that would even try to run Woodhead as many times as LT has this season.

patsfan-1982

like i said i love Woodhead, but i put him in the same league with Kevin Faulk, one of the best RB's in patriots history who when he got over a 150 att in the running game never averaged more then 3.6 per att

Woodhead, is only haveing the season that he is haveing because Brady, is haveing a MVP season spreding the ball around and a lot of the time Woodhead is the open man comeing out of the back field IMO if he is playing any other roll then the one he is playing right now with the pats he dose not put up the numbers he is puting up