neuronet

Good stuff, as an aside on "media mistakes", why is Spikes and Red Sox still top story on the forum here? Talk about screwd up priorities. We are in the middle of some of the best football we have ever played, and still Spikes and Sox? The former is old news now, and the latter is really hold news and written by someone who comes off as more of a Sox fan than pats fan.

Sorry, irrelevant, off soapbox, didn't want to start a new thread about this.

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deroc5050

I actually think there are a lot of people in the media (prominent people) who just completely throw crap against the wall and makes me wonder how much they actually understand.

Gary Tanguay- "Phillip Rivers is the MVP.. Phillip Rivers has always been the MVP in my mind since the first game of the season" This quote came after the pats killed the lions I believe... A retarded quote if you ask me.

Peter King-- could anyone be more overated? His winey voice just annoys the **** out of me...

Bob Ryan- After the pats were 6-1.. he was saying the pats were not a good team and that Brady was having a below average season... I know this was before the pats started playing there best football but there schedule was pretty tough to that point.. and there offence was being completely overhauled.. I love seeing these people eat crow and I don't forget when they say stupid stuff. Sometimes I just want to throw crap at the tv when I see some of these so called fraud experts explain to me what they think... I know more than most of these tools.

TrueBeliever

Don't know about you all, but this was my favorite part of the story:

What a jackhole.

So the videotaping had no effect whatsoever, but they were still deserving of such an outrageous punishment? This guy needs to get a clue.

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TruthSeeker

What Peter King thinks and then speaks can't shatter anything. He has very good sources. Many find him entertaining. But his football reasoning and general thinking is mediocre (as is evidenced but others comments in this thread).

Spiral

Back in 2007, it was Peter King who was arguing how serious this was, and speculating on what its effects on previous seasons might have been.

Now he's arguing how little effect it had, based on a comparison of records before and after the incident. What a tool.

Peter, these fans aren't forgetting anytime soon, and if you think BB has a short memory for these kinds of things, give Tom Jackson a call.

PATSYLICIOUS

It's a little too late to eat crow on Spygate. To buy into it initially is pretty bad, but understandable given the biased misinformation you were being fed. But after the team goes 16-0 without this so called 'monumental competitive advantage' and 11-5 without TFB... and people still clinged on to it somehow. Now, it's flat out too late. Goes without saying, they were all wrong beyond reason.

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TrueBeliever

That reminds me - a while back someone sent me a clip of Jackson on one of the BSPN shows where he was talking about the Vikings (this was before Childress got canned), he said, "I can say it for sure this time - this team hates their coach!"

So apparently he hasn't forgotten either.

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There's absolutely no reason to bring up -gate when talking about this team. The only reason he does it is because he wants to taint what the Pats are trying to accomplish this year. Then he tries to make it all better by complementing the team. Peter please stick to ball-washing the Jets.

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PatsDeb

I cannot stand Peter King, but like a car accident, I cannot look away from his columns. I am tempted to send him an angry e-mail telling him to shut the eff up about Spygate, but that will just give him ammo to highlight it again in his Tuesday morning mailbag. GRRR.

jmt57

In '07 I felt King was one of those - more so than others - that really grabbed on to the SG story and would absolutely not let it go. Others in the media were beating the same dead horse, but for other reasons. Gregg Easterbrook had his connections with Specter and Comcast - he had been writing about antitrust and the Sunday Ticket for some time previously - and he used the SG story to further that agenda. Gary Myers wrote incessantly about it to pander to his audience of Jet fans. Most everyone could care less about the facts; they were just looking to sell more papers, increase ratings, and boost their profits.

Many wrote about cheating and an unfair advantage, but King was the only one that seemed to sincerely be morally bothered by the incident. I think to him he equated it with baseball players using steroids and in his eyes ruining a quaint game. The issue I have with King both then and now is that he has never appeared to have done even the slightest bit of research into the practices of filming and of stealing signals. His usage of the phrase 'secretly videotaping' shows how little he still knows even now, while at the same time recklessly perpetuating a myth about the event. That's just shoddy journalism.

With such a poor effort to get his facts right, it's no wonder that King does not understand SG. For the Patriots to continue to be successful, it must be very bothersome for someone like King because it shatters his incorrect belief in what actually happened, and the effects that the filming had on winning.