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These pundits shouldn't disregard Tom Bradys whole career off of one season.

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sbpatfan

"Tom Brady is the..." - Unknown

There's another four word quote.

RodThePat

First of all, Cassel is a good NFL QB. Not great, but good. He has a better QB rating than Manning right now.

He inherited arguably the greatest team of all time and led'em to 11 wins against the easiest schedule in recent memory. The dropoff from 07 was incredible, and that's the year you have to compare it to, not 09 because by then the roster was very different. Using Cassel to demean Tom Brady is the worst argument ever.

Calciumee

Rex Grossman got to the Superbowl!

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Bella*chick

Excellent point.

Here's a funny example of Colt fan logic. I was discussing sports with a Colt fan who pointed out without Manning, the Colts are a pretty poor team (something I readily agree with). He observed that the Pats, in contrast, did OK without Brady. (this was to shore up his argument that Manning is the GOAT and Brady is a system QB, I guess). I would have pointed out the easy schedule and "coming off 2007" thing but I wanted to keep it simple so I said we have excellent coaching and a pretty good team around Tom Brady too. He agreed our coaching/teambuilding is excellent.

Then somehow from all of this he concluded that our days of being contenders were probably over, while the Colts chances were still strong. This despite the fact that he pointed out they win maybe 4 games without Manning.

OK, maybe not all Colts fans are dumb, but this one sure was.

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xmarkd400x

And TFB has won more than 110 (counting playoffs).

RodThePat

The system QB argument is absolutely demolished by two simple questions:

When was this "system" installed and why didn't it work wonders for Drew Bledsoe and the Cleveland QBs?

It just seems funny to me that the offense started working the minute Tom Brady stepped in as quarterback. Did it take Belichick one week to create this "system", in between the Jets and the Colts games in 2001? Why is it that only Tom Brady was able to take advantage of it? That's not even getting into the fact that Brady has had arguably 4 different OCs during his career in New England. It's not like the Patriots are the 80's 49ers and Belichick created a paradigm shift in offensive philosophy to suit the strenghts of his quarterback.

As I said, the Cassel argument is invalid, and this year just further demonstrates the point. He's having a very good year in Kansas City, with fewer weapons than he had here in 08. Maybe, just maybe, he is a good QB, has anyone ever thought of that? Is it that unlikely that the kid can play in the NFL?

WelshPat

I think Cassel is pretty limited as an NFL starter... the Chiefs have one of the leagues elite running games, and when they fall behind and can't run it, they get in trouble (see the Denver game last week)

But even with his limitations, he can clearly play in the league, I just don't think he will ever win a playoff game. He's kind of like late career Chad Pennington

And anyone who says Brady or Manning is a system QB is just a troll

Palm Beach Pats Fan

One of the most hilarious criticisms of Brady in the Brady-Manning debate is that the gap between starter and backup has always been bigger for Manning.

Well, if the Colts didn't sign buckets of warm piss as backup quarterbacks that would not be the case. Belichick has installed Bledsoe, Testaverde, Flutie, Cassel, Hoyer etc. as backup QBs. Good players all (though the jury is out on Hoyer). That is preparation, people. It makes sense in a league where one play can take anyone out for the year.

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Froob

Honestly, I think Jim Sorgi probably could of done ok for the colts. Painter is just terrible.