OT: Jags on officiating - New England Patriots Forums

SVN · 12-03-2007, 08:53 AM

http://www.jaguars.com/News/Article.aspx?id=6559

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“Guys in my position get fined for saying what they think. I’ll let you say what you saw,” Del Rio said.

All right, we saw a field day for replay review, and every review seemed to go Colts coach Tony Dungy’s way. Dungy used so many “challenges” that he was unable to use one he certainly would’ve won; he only had one “challenge” left and it was too early in the first half to use it. So, you could say, that’s a “challenge” the Jaguars won. It was the only one.

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Crowd noise, huh? No, it was defensive line noise.

“I think John Teerlinck does a great job with his guys,” Del Rio said of the Colts defensive line coach, for whom Del Rio played while with the Vikings. “He does a great job of getting his guys to bark. We tried to talk to the officials about it. The crowd noise was excellent,” Del Rio added, no doubt flippantly.

“They were barking a little bit and giving false movements. I felt like I was hearing a whistle at times. I almost pulled up a couple of times,” quarterback David Garrard said.

even brady was incensed at the lineman barking when the pats were taking a knee..

http://www.jaguars.com/News/Article.aspx?id=6560

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The Jaguars were angered by officiating they believed was tilted in the Colts’ favor. Defensive end Paul Spicer, who continues to play the best of any Jaguars defensive lineman, was pointed in his remarks.

Spicer was seen to counsel wide receiver Reggie Williams along the sideline following a personal foul penalty that killed a potential touchdown drive in the fourth quarter. Williams was flagged for retaliation.

“That guy was doing stuff after the whistle and Reggie retaliated. I said we’re in Indianapolis and (Colts president Bill) Polian gives them a little extra in the check,” Spicer said.

“You know what it is. You watched the game. You know,” Spicer said, hinting at the subject of his criticism but stopping short of being specific. “The people at home were probably wondering what was going on out there.

“The Colts are known for that stuff, late stuff. That’s just what they do and we can’t get sucked into that. Reggie didn’t too much; just get off me,” Spicer said.

i think the jags talk too much before a game but seem to quite incensed here.

scout · 12-03-2007, 09:02 AM

Its quite possible that there is a bias in Colts officiating, but that was a total Jag meltdown on the 15 yard penalty (1st and goal on the 5) that probably cost the Jags the game. Do not cry about that call when your stupid enough to retaliate when your in postion to score.

***Gwedd*** · 12-03-2007, 09:05 AM

They have every right to be incensed. That game was blatantly rigged. It was bought and paid for by Polian and/or Goodell as a gift for the Colts to make certain they got a good standing in the playoffs.

Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells, who watches Colts games, can easily see the favoritism desplayed towards them by the refs.

As long as Polian owns that team, this will continue.

SVN · 12-03-2007, 09:15 AM

i for one dont thing the refs and the game is rigged but i think the fact that polian week after week sends complaints to the league on officiating has its effect on games. The refs are trying to avoid hearing from polian every week so they look at the colts games differently inadvertently.

workhorse · 12-03-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SVN

http://www.jaguars.com/News/Article.aspx?id=6559

even brady was incensed at the lineman barking when the pats were taking a knee..

http://www.jaguars.com/News/Article.aspx?id=6560

i think the jags talk too much before a game but seem to quite incensed here.

Sour grapes. I would be willing to bet most every d-line does the same thing. And everyone knows the guy that retaliates is the one that gets called for it. You have to keep your head on straight when you are in a position to score.

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Originally Posted by Gwedd

They have every right to be incensed. That game was blatantly rigged. It was bought and paid for by Polian and/or Goodell as a gift for the Colts to make certain they got a good standing in the playoffs.

Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells, who watches Colts games, can easily see the favoritism desplayed towards them by the refs.

As long as Polian owns that team, this will continue.

I guess the favoritism was in full force when they blew the play dead when the Colts had a pick 6 and when they took Gonzalez's TD off the board for offensive PI? How about the missed defensive PI that was more blatent on the very next play? My point is there are calls or non-calls that go for both teams, if you are strictly looking for one side, that's all you will see.

BTW, Jim Irsay owns the Colts.

DGameguy · 12-03-2007, 09:39 AM

I mean, that non-fumble call on Utecht was ridiculous, and I was incensed and ready to call the game rigged, but there were a couple of bad calls against the Colts, like that bogus offensive pass intereference on Gonzalez.

patsfaninpa · 12-03-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by workhorse

Sour grapes. I would be willing to bet most every d-line does the same thing. And everyone knows the guy that retaliates is the one that gets called for it. You have to keep your head on straight when you are in a position to score.

I guess the favoritism was in full force when they blew the play dead when the Colts had a pick 6 and when they took Gonzalez's TD off the board for offensive PI? How about the missed defensive PI that was more blatent on the very next play? My point is there are calls or non-calls that go for both teams, if you are strictly looking for one side, that's all you will see.

BTW, Jim Irsay owns the Colts.

THe pick 6 was an illegal procedure Einstein. And, yes Gonzalez blatantly tried to shove cb. Kind of whiffed. But, he certainly tried to push him. I see that the colts have started to use the pick play now that they can't get guys open. 3-4 of them. One obvious one, where Clark flattened the guy covering Wayne. The PI not called on Clark was borderline. They should let borderline calls go. Not give you everyone. But, since you get those calls all of the time. I can see why you would feel that way.

PonyExpress · 12-03-2007, 09:45 AM

I watched this game closely and agree with every complaint the Jaguars are voicing.

workhorse · 12-03-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpa

THe pick 6 was an illegal procedure Einstein. And, yes Gonzalez blatantly tried to shove cb. Kind of whiffed. But, he certainly tried to push him. I see that the colts have started to use the pick play now that they can't get guys open. 3-4 of them. One obvious one, where Clark flattened the guy covering Wayne. The PI not called on Clark was borderline. They should let borderline calls go. Not give you everyone. But, since you get those calls all of the time. I can see why you would feel that way.

So you now get penalized for intent even if you don't actually do anything?

37Harrison · 12-03-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by workhorse

Sour grapes. I would be willing to bet most every d-line does the same thing. And everyone knows the guy that retaliates is the one that gets called for it. You have to keep your head on straight when you are in a position to score.

I guess the favoritism was in full force when they blew the play dead when the Colts had a pick 6 and when they took Gonzalez's TD off the board for offensive PI? How about the missed defensive PI that was more blatent on the very next play? My point is there are calls or non-calls that go for both teams, if you are strictly looking for one side, that's all you will see.

BTW, Jim Irsay owns the Colts.

Didn't Patriot fans get ridiculed for saying the same thing about the whole "spygate" incident? Weren't we told that if our kids gave us the excuse, "but everyone else does it" holds no water and "two wrongs don't make a right"? Seriously, we don't want to hear it. It is more than just Jaguar and Patriot fans that see this blatant bias for the Colts.

Making excuses to fit your argument won't work here.