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Old 12-03-2007, 10:32 AM   #21
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I disagree and honestly I always find it hard to believe that it is usually in anyone teams favor. Again, I hate to beat a dead horse here, but theres an opposing call for every other call that was bad. Del Rio can't get over the Colts, I understand the frustration, it's horrible to not be able to get over that hump team. I just think blaming the officials is counter productive for his team.

Ball spotting, San Diego game inside two minutes, measured inside the 5 for a Colts first down, which would have allow them to try to run it in for a game winning touchdown.

THE REFS, decide to review the spot, RESPOT the ball, take away the first down, Adam V shanks it, Colts lose.

My response, get the first down by more than 2 inches, don't be 2 points down under two minutes, play better the other 58 minutes, but don't cry about one or two calls that as a homer you see as bad. It makes it sound like you don't control your own destiny through hard nosed well played football.

Go to Colts board or any board for that matter, you'll see the same thing.

Reggie Waynes got hit late. Run back for touchdown taken away. Late hits on Peyton. It goes both ways, honestly.

I like conspiracy fans cause I think they are the ultimate homers, so much so they blame any of their teams inadequacies or bad games on some hidden league agenda or some bought off ref. Good for you conspiracy homer fan, but its bad for a team, like the Jags, to make this part of their persona. It sets them up for failure, imho.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:32 AM   #22
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I picked these stats up from another board - no-one disputed them so I assume they're correct :

Colts opponents last year were 83-647 and the Colts were 87-795, so they were more penalized then their opponents.

This year, and project their penalties for 16 games and their opponents at 91-808 and the colts at 57-376.

So that means last year the Colts opponents received 55% of the penalties called in Colts games. Whereas this year the opponents receive 32%.

Unless you assume that the Colts have improved this dramatically in avoiding penalties or that the players that left were almost the entire cause for penalties, there is no way this can just happen legitimately. The Colts are on pace for less than half the penalties they had last year while their opponents have increased by 25%.

Not possible.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:34 AM   #23
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I picked these stats up from another board - no-one disputed them so I assume they're correct :

Colts opponents last year were 83-647 and the Colts were 87-795, so they were more penalized then their opponents.

This year, and project their penalties for 16 games and their opponents at 91-808 and the colts at 57-376.

So that means last year the Colts opponents received 55% of the penalties called in Colts games. Whereas this year the opponents receive 32%.

Unless you assume that the Colts have improved this dramatically in avoiding penalties or that the players that left were almost the entire cause for penalties, there is no way this can just happen legitimately. The Colts are on pace for less than half the penalties they had last year while their opponents have increased by 25%.

Not possible.

I'd question last years numbers, I think in all of Dungy's tenure they emphasize not having penalties and usually rate toward the best in that category.

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I'd question last years numbers, I think in all of Dungy's tenure they imphasize not having penalties and usually rate toward the best in that category.
wait....
so the NFL team tries not to get penalties called on them?

Ohh ok that explains everything. We can close the books on this one. the mystery has been solved.
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I'd question last years numbers, I think in all of Dungy's tenure they imphasize not having penalties and usually rate toward the best in that category.
I just looked them up and while the numbers I saw were a little off, the point remains.

From CBS' stats site, the Colts penalties have gone from 718 to a projected 412, their opponents have gone from 667 to a projected 753.

According to that, the Colts have dropped 43% while the opponents have risen 13%.
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I just looked them up and while the numbers I saw were a little off, the point remains.

From CBS' stats site, the Colts penalties have gone from 718 to a projected 412, their opponents have gone from 667 to a projected 753.

According to that, the Colts have dropped 43% while the opponents have risen 13%.
I'm sorry but he already refuted that argument with his brilliant "the colts don't try to get penalized" response.
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Thought the bogus officiating for the Colts would end when Manning got his ring.
We learned that was not true after 8 calls/non-calls all when to the Colts and against the Patriots out there. The league has a LARGE credibility problem not only with refs consistently throwing calls the Cots way but with that amplified crowd noise at Indy.
Roger Goodell where are you...........
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I mean, that non-fumble call on Utecht was ridiculous,
It was? I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I don't think you listened to Simms either. Simms saw it immediately on the replay and it was *obvious* that it could not be called a fumble according to the rule.

Maybe you don't like the rule. Well fine, maybe we should give back the Tuck Call and make everybody happy who doesn't like the rules.
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I just looked them up and while the numbers I saw were a little off, the point remains.

From CBS' stats site, the Colts penalties have gone from 718 to a projected 412, their opponents have gone from 667 to a projected 753.

According to that, the Colts have dropped 43% while the opponents have risen 13%.
Thanks for checking the numbers, regardless of what I think about officiating that is a drastic change, very notable.
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after an entire season of penalties within their norm, the Patriots were flagged for the MOST PENALTY YARDAGE IN TEAM HISTORY....by the END OF THE 3RD QUARTER in Indy!!!!

Flabbergastingly overt bias.

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