Originally Posted by spacecrime

Two questions:

1. What is Maroney's yards per carry average?

2. What is the league average for RBs?

Two more questions:

1. What was Maroney's yards per carry average last year?

2. What was the league average last for RBs last year?

Originally Posted by National Sports Advisors

Ummm, are you comapring Schotty and Norv to BB? Puhleaze. BB plays the best players. He goes with what gives him the best oppurtunity to win. If you think he would have LT out of the gameplan, than you are wrong.

Originally Posted by DaBruinz

You are wrong on so many levels.

1) LT is in a category all by himself.
2) You do a disservice to both LT and Maroney by pathetically attempting to compare the two
3) Just because YOUR expectations are unrealistic doesn't mean that the rest of the world's expectations are.
4) Maroney IS a damn good RB. Your bias against him shows your ignorance.

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

And once again you change your argument. Don't you ever get tired of moving the goalposts?

Originally Posted by DaBruinz

You are wrong on so many levels.

1) LT is in a category all by himself.

Originally Posted by National Sports Advisors

And what is your point? Is it fair to compare Maroney's YPC running in an offense that has Tom Brady at QB to LT who has Phillip River at QB? How about Adrian Peterson with Tavares Jackson at QB? How about Larry Johnson with Brodie Croyle? You can't compare. It's just like comparing Manning's TD stats last year with Harrison and Wayne to Brady who had Caldwell and Gaffney. Apples to oranges. Bottom line, Maroney is a JAG right now. A JAG.

Originally Posted by Oswlek

Obviously the whole Taylor thing sucks. That is one thing.

But I am flabbergasted at just how many people are extrapolating the rest of the season based on one game when we have 10 other games that should be just a relevent as that one.

Somehow, now that NE didn't win by 20+ points Josh McDaniels sucks again, Maroney is garbage, the defense is a sieve and on and on.

Didn't NE just obliterate a Buffalo team that was also around .500 prior to the game? Didn't NE hold Indy to 20 points a few weeks ago? Haven't all other great teams played poorly against mediocre competition before? Didn't the same AJ Feeley that ripped NE's secondary do the exact same thing against the best team in NE's history with a far worse Miami team?

I'm all for critical analysis. Show me why WR X was able to come completely free and how it was really safety Y's job to watch for that route. Diagram how NE blitzed improperly prior to a 24 yard pass play. NE clearly played their worst game of the year.

But they still won. How in hell did we have any confidence in the 2003 and 2004 playoffs if we can't in this team? Shouldn't we have a little more perspective and let the next game happen before we decide that things were not just a bad day but harbringers of doom?

Sorry if this comes across as overly obnoxious, but I really am taken aback by the tone on Pats boards today.

Originally Posted by ChoWZa

Last year the Chargers moved the ball well through the air.. your argument here is falling apart. I do agree Maroney is not doing much better than average. However that is a position they only need average at right now. (Hence 11-0). I do think they will take McFadden next year top 5 though.

Average is NOT the same as bad, or "DUD".

Originally Posted by National Sports Advisors

Maroney is a DAM GOOD RB? Based on what? What does he do that is better than average? He is average in every facet of the position. Plus, he is a non-factor in the passing game. He stinks as a pass receiver. Stinks.

Originally Posted by National Sports Advisors

Ummm, it is when the guy is #21 pick in the entire draft. The guy is a JAG. That's all fine and dandy when you are a 4th rd pick, but not when you were a 1st rd pick. Hey, a Ford truck is a score for 12k. It's a rip-off for 40k. Maroney is a rip-off for the price we paid for him(a 1st rd pick!). I want my money back!!!!!!!