newton_tom_cat

all along i never bought into "best team ever" hype. so go ahead and hate me now. emmitt is right, we don't have the depth that an all-time great team would need. we have a very mediocre running game at best. and when our offense isnt dominating an opponent our defense shows its age and wears down rather quickly. this team is more like the rams "greatest show on turf" than we are 70s steelers, 80s 9ers and 90's cowboys. but hey thats fine, greatest show on turf won the superbowl, which i still think we will this year. a and that will make it 4 super bowls in 7 years. in that sense we have a better case for "best dynasty ever" than we do for "best team ever" this year. so go ahead hate on me cuz im not driking the cool aid. but i call it like i see it

He Ban Me

You guys are really great, best "best ever" is over done and immaterial. Defense STILL makes plays when it needs to, but they looked a little pedestrian last night. Too much left over Turkey.

shmessy

Sorry, was this about the Pats or about you?

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"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com

patsfan13

If this team wins out you can make the GOAT argument. There are many more well trained FB players now than before. I would also make the point that it would be a greater team feat to go 19-0 in this age of parity especially putting up the kind of numbers the Pats have.

Not too worried about this stuff now there are still 8 games to go.

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ATippett56

Who are you?

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The End of the Chad Ochostinko Era!

shmessy

Someone who used the words "I" or "Me" seven times in one post.

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"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com

letekro

A lot of times nostalgia gets in the way of the facts. Let me help clear your mind:

1. Those Dallas Cowboys teams lost 3, 4, 5, 6 games per year. That goes the same for the other teams you mentioned. The 49ers did go 15-1 one year. You're acting like these other teams won every game they played.

2. No one in the modern era has a margin of victory as great as ours. That means we dominate.

So, I don't know what to tell you, you can believe what you want, but the facts show that if we go 19-0 AND have the largest margin of victory ever, we are the most dominating team ever.

PATSNUTme

I don't think people will hate you for saying the Patriots are not the best ever. I think if they read all of your posts, there would be plenty of other things to hate you for.

dwayne

The 14-2 49ers of 1989 may actually have been slightly better than the 15-1 49ers of 1984, actually. Both are right up there for all-time great single seasons, though. Also, both versions actually went 8-0 on the road in their seasons.

newton_tom_cat

to your points:

1. it's also a matter of your competition, and admittedly our AFC East counterparts are not competition in any era. rest of the league isn't in such good shape either
2. blowouts tell me nothing. a lot of great teams win with defense, which produce lower scoring games and lower margin of victories. also, when you dominate a team the margin of victory is largely determined by the dominant team, with many choosing to cool things down, rest starters and convert to running game earlier than this team has.