Don Calhoun

Has Goodell ever come out and definitively stated that the 1st round pick the league is taking from the NEP is in fact our pick and not the S.F. one?

If he has stated that, what are the chances he changes that stance and switches to the S.F. pick? He did say that there is a chance further penalties could be forthcoming, or was that stipulation only for not cooperating with tape library submission?

solman

It is official that we lost OUR #1 pick in the 2008 draft and the case is closed.

If we do something else wrong, or lied about what we have done in the past, we could be penalized again.

It is unlikely that Goodell will ever punish a team with the loss of a pick that originally belonged to another team. It would certainly be unprecedented.


Many fans have a notion of justice that requires successful teams to be punished more than unsuccessful teams for the same offense. Under this line of thinking, we should be penalized for the success of our San Francisco trade or for our success on the field.

Certainly the Spygate punishment did precisely that. Had the Falcons been caught doing the exact same thing, the punishment would have been much less severe. But there is nothing about the Spygate punishment that explicitly acknowledges this.

Taking away our SF pick WOULD clearly penalize us for being successful. The commissioners office is clear on this, and they would never allow such a precedent to be set.

alamo

Yes. That's why the pick is a 1st if we make the playoffs and a 2nd+3rd if we didn't --- he had an approximate value in mind for the forfeited draft pick. If we failed to make the playoffs the first round pick would exceed that value but the 2nd+3rd would meet it.

Why would he do that? It would be seen as capricious and would greatly undermine his credibility.

Bertil

He clearly stated that it was the Patriots pick, not the pick they traded with San Francisco for, in the pregame interview with Bob Costas before the San Diego game. He'd be hard pressed to go back on that, having said that the matter was closed the following Thursday. This issue was concluded after the tapes were destroyed.

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Don Calhoun

Thanks alot!

pats1

Case closed. This has been discussed far too many times already. It really is a simple issue and has already been answered in this thread, and in many, many, many, many others.