How is strength of schedule applied to our SF pick? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

RussFrancis · 11-13-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eom

so, if jets beat miami, and miami beats buffalo and baltimore, then san fran fights it out w/oak on sos for #1 pick?
sweet.

hey, its twitch. are you guys really talking about the #1 overall pick at this point? Im calling 'mercy' on the entire San Fran season. been following this thing all season, and at this point, I just cant stand to watch anymore. I know one thing for sure, though. San Fran is losing to the Rams, and I seriously doubt theyll win more than 1 more game. The MN game. And with any luck, Peterson will be back by then.

JaredOfNazareth · 11-13-2007, 11:17 PM

This thread is awsome. Thanks guys. Answered some questions I was thinking. I love our chances of gaining ground on St Louis and NYJ but Miami will most likely get the 1st pick. So we root for StL, NYJ, and Oak for week 11.

eom · 11-13-2007, 11:19 PM

hey twitch.

minn will stuff gore and sf will have to rely on the arm of alex smith....

doesn't sound so likely now, does it?

JaredOfNazareth · 11-13-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RussFrancis

hey, its twitch. are you guys really talking about the #1 overall pick at this point? Im calling 'mercy' on the entire San Fran season. been following this thing all season, and at this point, I just cant stand to watch anymore. I know one thing for sure, though. San Fran is losing to the Rams, and I seriously doubt theyll win more than 1 more game. The MN game. And with any luck, Peterson will be back by then.

Yeah with that easy schedule comes a better chance to pick up a couple wins. That Vikings game as well as @Carolina are the only games SF could pickup. Min run defense should win that game alone and I hope the long travel hurts them in Carolina. I like our chances because footballoutsiders has SF as the 3rd worst team since 1996(#1 is SF in '05). Can Mike Nolan say hot seat?

shakadave · 11-14-2007, 12:06 AM

Great information here!

I love the idea that we benefit from the Round 1 tiebreaker, then waltz out of there before the reversed order of Round 2 comes into play.

Miami has the farthest to go to "catch" SF (Don't you love thinking backwards?), so I've given up on that one. I'll hope instead for the simultaneous 16-0/0-16. But the race for #2 could be interesting if St. Louis beats SF.

By the way, we should go back and kick ourselves an extra time for those two photo finishes SF won at the start of the season. For awhile they were Seattle-2006-like, but then it passed.

eom · 11-14-2007, 12:08 AM

dude, miami has lost half it's games by only a field goal.

they play buffalo again, hapless baltimore, and the sorry jets.

they can totally win 2 games this year --- go miami!!

JaredOfNazareth · 11-14-2007, 12:25 AM

I thought Miami was set to play the Jets but apparently they play the Eagles. So Miami only has to stop Westbrook and maybe Ginn can return a punt or something. Keep it close and Reid will lose it. Too bad the Jets play the Steelers. Two BB 3-4 D in a row for Big Ben. I hope the Bye week helps the Jets beat those erratic Steelers.

JaredOfNazareth · 11-14-2007, 12:33 AM

Every team in the league should win at least one more with 7 weeks remaining. I'm glad SF is a lock for weakest SoS. Oakland suffers because they play the AFC South.

solman · 11-14-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shakadave

I know that draft order is determined by W-L record, and if two (non-playoff) teams are tied, the next tiebreaker is strength of schedule.

Now here's my best guess, but does anyone know if it's right?

Say SF is tied with Cincinnati, and SF played a STRONGER schedule strength than Cinci played. That means SF is considered a BETTER team than Cinci, so that SF picks AFTER Cinci.

On the other hand, if SF played a WEAKER strength of schedule than Cinci, SF is considered the worse team, and drafts AHEAD of Cinci. Pats fans would want this scenario, and I believe SF has played one of the weakest strengths-of-schedule in the whole league.

That's right, but here is the simplified, 99% correct version:

If San Francisco finishes the season with the same record as any other team or teams, the Patriots will pick before the team(s) they are tied with.

Amongst losing teams, only Arizona has a good shot of winning the tie breaker, and they probably won't. (Arizona wins the tie breaker if Detroit and Washington have a worse combined record than Minnesota and the Giants. That gives San Francisco a two game edge right now with the Minnesota game still ahead of them [Lose and there probably won't be a tie to break. Win and they add to their tie breaker lead.])