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Old 09-20-2010, 11:30 AM   #1
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Its very weird when a team like the Jets lose thier franchise player Revis and actually benefit from it

When Revis went down Belichick and Brady decided they were going to try and keep the rookie Wilson and the corners busy by constantly throwing it to Moss despite him being double covered most of the game,while in the first half when Revis was on the field Brady only went deep to Moss 2 times and connnecting on that TD pass and was spreading the ball around to the TEs and Welker and had a good going at the time...until the Revis injury changed thier gameplans to the dumb side.

I guess they thought with Revis out of the puicture that they could get the ball to Moss through double coverage just because Revis was not there and they wanted to prove Moss was not a slouch...it didn't happen and we lost

Darrell Revis going down in that game was a key in the Jets victory...sounds weird but its a fact.

This Brady zeroing on Moss needs to stop,this team won't win a game,especially on the road being so predictable that even a blind man can see it coming.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:53 AM   #2
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Google the Ewing Theory or Ewing Effect for an explanation. Other players on the team tend to step it up a bit when the best player is out.
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Its very weird when a team like the Jets lose thier franchise player Revis and actually benefit from it

When Revis went down Belichick and Brady decided they were going to try and keep the rookie Wilson and the corners busy by constantly throwing it to Moss despite him being double covered most of the game,while in the first half when Revis was on the field Brady only went deep to Moss 2 times and connnecting on that TD pass and was spreading the ball around to the TEs and Welker and had a good going at the time...until the Revis injury changed thier gameplans to the dumb side.

I guess they thought with Revis out of the puicture that they could get the ball to Moss through double coverage just because Revis was not there and they wanted to prove Moss was not a slouch...it didn't happen and we lost

Darrell Revis going down in that game was a key in the Jets victory...sounds weird but its a fact.

This Brady zeroing on Moss needs to stop,this team won't win a game,especially on the road being so predictable that even a blind man can see it coming.
Why don't you just go ahead and become a Jets fan? You know you want to do it. You relish the Patriots losses and struggles more than their wins and successes.
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Why don't you just go ahead and become a Jets fan? You know you want to do it. You relish the Patriots losses and struggles more than their wins and successes.
You want to ball wash everything the Patriots do.....I feel bad for your pathetic ****

Only normal fans don't suck up everything thier team does and thinks nothing is bad....try and be objectionable for once or can't you face the facts this team is a 3rd place rebulding AFC East team at this juncture,especially on defense....like I once said before you must be 13 years old,no adult acts like that.
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Google the Ewing Theory or Ewing Effect for an explanation. Other players on the team tend to step it up a bit when the best player is out.
This was my thought too. Barry Melrose in hockey called it the Reverse Superstar Theory, same thing. A star player goes down, everyone thinks they need to step it up and subconsciously it makes them play harder and better.

The opposite can happen when the superstar comes back. Players relax, figuring they'll be even better now that they've played so well AND have their star in the mix again. People slack, bad things happen.

Both scenarios usually only happen in the short term though. Eventually it evens out, but for one half of football it's entirely plausible.
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Why don't you just go ahead and become a Jets fan? You know you want to do it. You relish the Patriots losses and struggles more than their wins and successes.
I think it's odd that THIS post is the one that makes you say this... I've seen far more critical posts from PATRIOTSFANINPA in the past. I think it's pretty hard to argue with the logic in this one honestly. Unless you think it's still a good idea to throw to Moss in double coverage.
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Lame.

My problem is they didn't go at the CBs enough, and you think the opposite?

I couldn't figure out why they were running the ball.

3rd and 8 is not a good situation for a throw, even if Revis isn't out there.

Even the announcers were mentioning the other Jets CB, but no, they ran the ball.
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Lame.

My problem is they didn't go at the CBs enough, and you think the opposite?

I couldn't figure out why they were running the ball.

3rd and 8 is not a good situation for a throw, even if Revis isn't out there.

Even the announcers were mentioning the other Jets CB, but no, they ran the ball.
My problem is that they were zeroing in on throwing to Moss not being covered by Revis as compared to when Revis was in there it was more going to Hernandez and a bit of Welker too except for a few shots at Moss and the TD catch.

I believe Belichick thought that when Revis went out Moss was going to be able to beat his coverage...didn't happen and throws were forced.

Had Revis played the whole game we might have seen more throws to the TEs and more of a better mix in the second half like we had in the first half than those wasted bombs to Moss that were not going anywhere.

The Jets secondary is enough good that losing Revis was not the end of the world... now if we lost McCourty who is the only real talent left on the corners,then you might as well pack it up for the season.
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I think it's odd that THIS post is the one that makes you say this... I've seen far more critical posts from PATRIOTSFANINPA in the past. I think it's pretty hard to argue with the logic in this one honestly. Unless you think it's still a good idea to throw to Moss in double coverage.
This is not the one post that made me say it. It is the cumulative effect of this type of thread and this type poster of which the OP is the ring leader. There is minority of very vocal poster who seem to enjoy the losses and pointing out the flaws of the BB, Brady and the Patriots and whom even in wins will post how we were "lucky" or the other team isn't really that good. They predict the Patriots are going to lose before the game and then boast about being right afterward. These folks make me sick.

I don't mind the actual Jet fans who come in and trash talk the Patriots, but folks like the OP are the worst form of troll on any message board.
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This is not the one post that made me say it. It is the cumulative effect of this type of thread and this type poster of which the OP is the ring leader. There is minority of very vocal poster who seem to enjoy the losses and pointing out the flaws of the BB, Brady and the Patriots and whom even in wins will post how we were "lucky" or the other team isn't really that good. They predict the Patriots are going to lose before the game and then boast about being right afterward. These folks make me sick.
But at least now you know to whom the Boston media caters.
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