How did Belichick go from below average coach to greatness? - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

LoveDemPats · 10-27-2007, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ALP

ohh, cmon guys....the reason BB is so good in NE was b/c all these years he has been using cameras on the sidelines to tape defensive signals...nvm that those signals change, that the opposite team also taped...

u just watch, this year, without being able to tape signals...hes gonna suck again...

wut was that? the pats are 7-0?

Oh, and also, the only reason that he has won anything is because of Weiss and Romeo, so you just wait until he doesn't have them around.

Remember this crap too?

wistahpatsfan · 10-27-2007, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat the Pats Fan

He has a great owner now that let's the coach and GM do their job. Modell never could do that. Modell likes being friends with the players, and that will always get in the way of personnel decisions. He fought with Belichick over the Kosar issue and how it was presented to the Cleveland fans.

Many forget, but Modell fired another great coach, Paul Brown......

That's what I think. Kraft is the dream owner coaches would kill to work for. Compare working in NE to working in places like Atlanta, Oakland, Dallas, Buffalo...places where the owner is the story. This is why BB will end his career in New England. There are no greener pastures.

homergreg · 10-27-2007, 06:36 AM

Belichick was the Browns Coach before the current Salary Cap system went into full effect. That system really changed how NFL teams are scouted and managed. He has a great ability to manage the cap.

Plus he drafted Tom Brady.

primetime · 10-27-2007, 06:37 AM

He got Tom Brady.

A high school coach could look like a genius with Tom Brady. Yes, Belichick is one of the all-time greats, but man was that ever a stroke of good luck.

LaBrady · 10-27-2007, 07:40 AM

BB was never below average.

BB already had 2 SB rings when he started in Cleveland. And I do believe BB was in charge of one of the best defenses in NFL history with the Giants. Weren't they the ones stopping great offenses like 49ers and Bills in the playoffs.

Now in Cleveland BB came to a ****ty ass team (as usual) and the team did improve just not to the point of being SB contender. And BB didn''t have full control of operations either. Thats all.

Whoever says that BB started cheating is total moron and an ignorant idiot!

Flying Fungi · 10-27-2007, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by primetime

He got Tom Brady.

A high school coach could look like a genius with Tom Brady. Yes, Belichick is one of the all-time greats, but man was that ever a stroke of good luck.

I'm going to give it up here for Dick Rehbein--Brady was his choice.

Pat the Pats Fan · 10-27-2007, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by primetime

He got Tom Brady.

A high school coach could look like a genius with Tom Brady. Yes, Belichick is one of the all-time greats, but man was that ever a stroke of good luck.

Luck????? 30 other coaches had the opportunity to draft Brady at least 5 times each! They all passed!!!!!!! I guess the other NFL coaches aren't even good enough to be high school coaches?
Belichick scouted him and took him when he thought it was a good value....that's not luck.....that's all about finding, coaching and developing talent.....

primetime · 10-27-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat the Pats Fan

Luck????? 30 other coaches had the opportunity to draft Brady at least 5 times each! They all passed!!!!!!! I guess the other NFL coaches aren't even good enough to be high school coaches?
Belichick scouted him and took him when he thought it was a good value....that's not luck.....that's all about finding, coaching and developing talent.....

It's luck. Bledsoe going down was luck.

How many other 6th round QBs have had the potential Brady does and just never got their chance? I'm sorry, the Patriots got incredibly lucky with Tom Brady. We, as fans, got incredibly lucky with Tom Brady. It's a one-in-a-billion thing that happened. If the Patriots had thought Tom Brady was a future Hall of Famer (and possibly the best ever) coming out, why'd they wait until the sixth round?

godef · 10-27-2007, 08:07 AM

Belichick's failure in Cleveland had more to do with perception than reality. People forget that he took Cleveland to the play-offs (they beat us for chrissakes!). But then the franchised announced their move to Baltimore and it all collapsed, no coach could have succeeded in that mess. And before that, he benched the ultra-popular Bernie Kosar and put in Testerverde (this was a proper move, Bernie had lost it).

And don't forget, he was 5-11 with us his first year. And then came Brady, whom we (at least some of us) are only really beginning to understand his greatness this year. Every dynastic coach has had a great quarterback, it's a part of the total puzzle.

Pat the Pats Fan · 10-27-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by primetime

It's luck. Bledsoe going down was luck.

How many other 6th round QBs have had the potential Brady does and just never got their chance? I'm sorry, the Patriots got incredibly lucky with Tom Brady. We, as fans, got incredibly lucky with Tom Brady. It's a one-in-a-billion thing that happened. If the Patriots had thought Tom Brady was a future Hall of Famer (and possibly the best ever) coming out, why'd they wait until the sixth round?

Sorry, got to disagree......ever heard of Johnny Unitas? drafted and cut, no one picked him up for a year......Ryan Leaf, Jeff George, Rick Mirer, maybe even Mike Vick, all 1st round picks that were absolute busts.......Belichick has had better success developing talent from the lower rounds than many teams have had with their #1's.

And on the Bledsoe injury......many a coach would have given Bledsoe his starting job back mid season......