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No question in my mind that Tom Brady is the best QB in the game NOW.
Tom finally has the weapons and he is blowing the doors off the record books!
Don't be surprised if he breaks Peyton's TD record this year!
This comparison is really no comparison imo, it's like comparing Russell to Chamberlain. Chamberlain was a freak and a hall of fame player but Russell was on another level, he was the key building block of a DYNASTY. That's what I see when I see Tom Brady. I see the Patriots Dynasty. Peyton Manning is a freak of an individual player, he is Chamberlain-like in that respect, but I don't see him having the ability to elevate his entire team by himself alone. Tom Brady has done much more with much less supporting talent. Manning has always had the all pro supporting cast before (edge/harrison, harrison/wayne/addai). Tom Brady finally got his weapons this season, and he is going to break records with them, he already has broken a couple to date. (highest completion percentage for first 100 passes, and 6 3 td games to start the year, as well as tying a record with 5 td passes in 1 game).
A few years from now when Brady has 6 or 7 rings on his fingers we're going to say that Tom Brady was to football what Michael Jordan was to basketball, the BEST that we've ever seen play the game.
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Right now its a tie between Peyton and Brady as best QB like it has been for years now.
Both are HOFers and both are the best in the business by far.
When all is said and done for these two guys whoever holds most SB trophies will be in my mind be the better of the two despite stats that Manning will have over Brady. At the end of his career I think we will say, to quote a certain wrestler, Tom Brady is "The Best there IS, the best there WAS, and the best there ever will BE."
Brady does have a 2 SB champ edge but theres no doubt Peyton has what it takes to win a few more in the next few years as well - so the debate goes on till both call it quits.
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I wrote that because I've had it with the media. It has nothing to do with Brady,or the team. I think they'll beat Miami. But I get a chance to watch,listen,and read alot of what the sports media says,and everything is the flavor of the month,week,even day.Last year Miami was going to the SB, over the last 6-7 years the media was still kissing B Farves azz even though he hadn't done anything in tenn years. Thn they said he sucked and should retire ,now he's great again. In a month if Favre comes back down to earth the media will say see you told you he sucked etc.etc.etc
I wrote that because I've had it with the media. It has nothing to do with Brady,or the team. I think they'll beat Miami. But I get a chance to watch,listen,and read alot of what the sports media says,and everything is the flavor of the month,week,even day.Last year Miami was going to the SB, over the last 6-7 years the media was still kissing B Farves azz even though he hadn't done anything in tenn years. Thn they said he sucked and should retire ,now he's great again. In a month if Favre comes back down to earth the media will say see you told you he sucked etc.etc.etc
hahah I completely agree, I was just kidding. That's why I said it was more "fickle sensationalist media." I like this article but next week it'll be about Brett bid kid Favre again and the Saints being great again because they won today. My favorite example of this was the moral high ground that Shaughnessy and those other clowns claimed the Patriots had and then squandered hypocritically when they traded for Moss. So they invent this image, then claim that the team has defiled it when they trade for one of the top 3 players ever to play for them. Hilarious.
Well you could say that Manning in the early years of his career had Jim Mora as HC
While Brady has had Belichick to play for so far all career
So in reality the edges are kind of equal.
Except Mora didn't have an adverse impace on Manning's prolific development - in fact they are still running his offense 6 years later and only just began to tweek it last year. Remember, Dungy's offense in Tampa was ball control. If he'd had Dungy for all 9 years they'd probably both be toiling somewhere else today...
Belichick likely cost Brady over the first 6 seasons as the focus remained on defense, but Brady covered that for him by consistently accomplishing more with less on offense.
No question in my mind that Tom Brady is the best QB in the game NOW.
Tom finally has the weapons and he is blowing the doors off the record books!
Don't be surprised if he breaks Peyton's TD record this year!
This comparison is really no comparison imo, it's like comparing Russell to Chamberlain. Chamberlain was a freak and a hall of fame player but Russell was on another level, he was the key building block of a DYNASTY. That's what I see when I see Tom Brady. I see the Patriots Dynasty. Peyton Manning is a freak of an individual player, he is Chamberlain-like in that respect, but I don't see him having the ability to elevate his entire team by himself alone. Tom Brady has done much more with much less supporting talent. Manning has always had the all pro supporting cast before (edge/harrison, harrison/wayne/addai). Tom Brady finally got his weapons this season, and he is going to break records with them, he already has broken a couple to date. (highest completion percentage for first 100 passes, and 6 3 td games to start the year, as well as tying a record with 5 td passes in 1 game).
A few years from now when Brady has 6 or 7 rings on his fingers we're going to say that Tom Brady was to football what Michael Jordan was to basketball, the BEST that we've ever seen.
6 or 7 Rings in the next few years?
Do you realize that means this team has to not only win this year but be the best of the other 31 teams in 3 or 4 of the next 7 years?
Now THAT spells H-O-M-E-R - and a bit on the dreaming side I think
The only way Brady gets 7 rings is if the NFL puts a halt to the cap and we spend as much as we can like such as a guy like Steinbrenner in baseball (who by the way has the best players every year and still has not won anything lately) - You must think winning the Super Bowl in this era is as easy as pie,sure we won 3 of 6 but that era is over,I will be glad to win this year and worry about the future later.
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Better yet if next week P Manning throws for 440 yards,and 6 td the same writer will say Mannings better. I've seen theses guys do this for to long to take what they say seriously anymore.
I just went back and read who wrote the piece. T Curran whom I respect. I'm sure you all have heard look before you leap,well I should have looked before I wrote. I don't see Curran as a flavor of the month reporter. My Bad.
Do you realize that means this team has to not only win this year but be the best of the other 31 teams in 3 or 4 of the next 7 years?
Now THAT spells H-O-M-E-R - and a bit on the dreaming side I think
The only way Brady gets 7 rings is if the NFL puts a halt to the cap and we spend as much as we can like such as a guy like Steinbrenner in baseball (who by the way has the best players every year and still has not won anything lately) - You must think winning the Super Bowl in this era is as easy as pie,sure we won 3 of 6 but that era is over,I will be glad to win this year and worry about the future later.
Disagree. If we win this year and keep the team intact we need 2 more rings. We've been defying the cap for the past 7 years so why could Pioli/BB/Kraft keep it up. It might be a little greedy, but to say it's impossible is a bit much. Look how many years Brady still has ahead of him. Montana et. al. couldn't say that after his 3rd.
I've only been watching football since 92 and I have to say that Brady is the best QB i've ever seen read a defense.
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