Roy Williams is a Dirty SOB - New England Patriots Forums

***QuiGon*** · 10-11-2007, 09:51 PM

The NFL literally created the horsecollar rule because of Roy Williams to prevent him from doing his patented horsecollar tackle - and the guy continues to do it regularly anyway. If he tries that crap on Moss (or any other Pats player but Moss is the one I am most worried about), I hope someone takes him out big time.

Nordy · 10-11-2007, 09:58 PM

If he horse collars one of our players I hope Mankins goes over, rips his head off, and shoves it up his ass.

skspikex2 · 10-11-2007, 10:03 PM

Well let hope the refs open their eyes and threw the flag for 15 yards.

If not, have Big Ben jumpkick Roy.

zarakotas5 · 10-11-2007, 10:05 PM

Williams didn't actually horse collar that guy. He did try, but he didn't execute. The receiver was face-masked while Williams tried to horse him.

Yes, he is dirty. Which is bizarre, because he's a near zealot, religiously.

Patriot Missile · 10-11-2007, 10:17 PM

There are alot of dirty players out there. Some are and some aren't. I haven't seen enough of the guy to label him that. Harrison has been labeled a dirty player and I've rarely seen anything remotely close except hard nosed football.

***QuiGon*** · 10-11-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriot Missile

There are alot of dirty players out there. Some are and some aren't. I haven't seen enough of the guy to label him that. Harrison has been labeled a dirty player and I've rarely seen anything remotely close except hard nosed football.

#1 sign you're a dirty player: They make a rule specifically for and because of you creating a risk of injury - and you keep doing it anyway. When they make a "Rodney Harrison" rule, then I will consider the face he may be dirty.

khayos · 10-11-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by QuiGon

#1 sign you're a dirty player: They make a rule specifically for and because of you creating a risk of injury - and you keep doing it anyway. When they make a "Rodney Harrison" rule, then I will consider the face he may be dirty.

I'm sure the 'Rodney Harrison' rule would be knowing more than the refs on the field and instructing them on their jobs.

zarakotas5 · 10-11-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriot Missile

There are alot of dirty players out there. Some are and some aren't. I haven't seen enough of the guy to label him that. Harrison has been labeled a dirty player and I've rarely seen anything remotely close except hard nosed football.

Roy Williams is pretty bad, man. I respect the fact that you reserve judgement to your own eyes, but a poster said it pretty well (they named a rule after him). RW is old school, one room school house old, in terms of dirty tactics. In his case, it comes off not as hard play or viciousness. More like bratty kid behaviour. Like the horsecollar, it is often ways to lessen bad beats.

Tyler.Durden · 10-11-2007, 10:41 PM

The horse collar type tackle is common in rugby league, but i see why it is illegal.

jays52 · 10-11-2007, 10:50 PM

Not to defend the legality of the tackle, but in a field position game it makes a lot of sense. It stones the runner's foreward momentum and drops them backwards. This as opposed to wrapping the ball carrier's legs up from behind where they fall foreward and gain another two yards. That's often the difference between the punt team hitting the field or four fresh downs to work with. Horsecollar tackles are legal at the collegiate level because the level of athleticism is much different. In the pros, where guys are carrying 220 (frequently more) at a 4.4 clip and the body is working to it's physical limitations, any tweak to a runner's gait can cause massive injury. That's the reason the rule exists at the professional level. It's not in the nature of the hit to maliciously attack the ball carrier, just to stop them from making any further progress.