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Old 09-24-2007, 12:53 PM   #21
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I love the pats kicking ass just as much as the next homer , but remember to stay humble. Some people are going off the deep end. Pretty much declaring games wins , 16 - 0 , etc etc. Before you all get your panties in a bunch this is not directed at anyone in particular. The pats still have to face some good teams before you can bust out the koolaid.

I think if the fan base stays hungry it reflects to the team. As stupid as that sounds. A hungry attitude in NE people.
I agree with Dannyboy on this one (for once)
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:55 PM   #22
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I quite agree with AndyJohnson's views but as a fan deep in the ememy territory, love the Pats fans to be identified like the team:
- confident but not arrogant
- wise/experienced but not immature
- humble but prepared to dish it out during the game

However, is it realistic to expect all fans to show similiar traits? Nope.

So, even though I fall in danny88's camp of trying to be humble and allowing the team's actions in the fields speak for itself, I doubt whether I can expect or request other fans to be so.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:59 PM   #23
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Let me repeat what I said earlier: I know that it affects players, because players themselves have told me so. You can keep spouting the same falsehoods for as long as you want. It's not going to change what I've been told.
I would question the intellect of those players who it apparently affects then.

The only direct impact I could see a fan base having on a professional player is if they boo or cheer him continually while at a game. But I think the percentage of affected players is so small that it's neglible on the team itself.

In any case I'm not expecting that my non expert opinion on this Patriot team will have any effect whatsoever on they perform. If it does then I'm in thw wrong business.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:04 PM   #24
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But that is exactly my point. SO FAR THEY HAVE BEEN.
Saying that is not implying it does them any good in any future game.
I don't know why its a bad thing to fairly assess the first 3 games.

After those, if you held a gun to my head, and asked me to make a prediction, quite frankly, I would have to say undefeated.
Well nobody held a gun to your head last year when we started the playoffs and you wrote a long thread about exactly why we were going to win the superbowl.

I believe that my comment on your thread was something to the effect of 'why don't we just concentrate on the Colts game?'

So my comment today is 'why don't we just go ahead and try to beat the Bengals next Monday and not try and predict the next 13 weeks all at once?'
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:11 PM   #25
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I would question the intellect of those players who it apparently affects then.

The only direct impact I could see a fan base having on a professional player is if they boo or cheer him continually while at a game. But I think the percentage of affected players is so small that it's neglible on the team itself.

In any case I'm not expecting that my non expert opinion on this Patriot team will have any effect whatsoever on they perform. If it does then I'm in thw wrong business.
Contrary to your apparent belief, sports players are human beings who do get influenced by the outside world. I don't know how many times I have to say it until it gets through to you. I know that it affects players, and I know it for a fact.

Just take a look at what happens at WEEI, for example. Every monday after the games is Patriots monday, when various players go on the air and hear the fans and talk hosts praising or bashing. Only a fool would think that doesn't have any effect on players. If things others did and said had no effect on teams, you'd never hear about "billboard material".
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:19 PM   #26
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Well nobody held a gun to your head last year when we started the playoffs and you wrote a long thread about exactly why we were going to win the superbowl.

I believe that my comment on your thread was something to the effect of 'why don't we just concentrate on the Colts game?'

So my comment today is 'why don't we just go ahead and try to beat the Bengals next Monday and not try and predict the next 13 weeks all at once?'
Because I dont want to?

I have no impact on whether we beat the Bengals or not.
The only impact I have is what I would like to talk about.
I think it is very reasonable to talk about how good this team looks. I have no need to have a discussion about superstition, or pretneding that my confidence affects the team.

Last year, before the playoffs (I believe I wrote that before the playoffs, not before the Colts game) I wanted to discuss what I thought the team would do. I did that, I turned out wrong by a little. You seem to imply that had an influence on the game??????????
I found more enjoyment in giving my opinion, and supporting it with reasons, than I would have found typing "I have nothing to say, because I am not 100% sure what the outcome will be"
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:21 PM   #27
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After the pats face the steelers,colts and the cowboys I will do my talking. Until then I stay humble.
If that is what you prefer to do, thats fine.

I disagree.

Why do you feel the need to tell me I have to think like you?
(Your thread TOLD us to be humble, and criticized anyone who is not)

If that is the way you most enjoy being a fan, go right ahead, but don't try to tell me what kind of fan I should be.
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Contrary to your apparent belief, sports players are human beings who do get influenced by the outside world. I don't know how many times I have to say it until it gets through to you. I know that it affects players, and I know it for a fact.

Just take a look at what happens at WEEI, for example. Every monday after the games is Patriots monday, when various players go on the air and hear the fans and talk hosts praising or bashing. Only a fool would think that doesn't have any effect on players. If things others did and said had no effect on teams, you'd never hear about "billboard material".
The billboard material is stuff said by other PLAYERS not by fans like you and I who post on some obscure message board.

I suppose it's possible that a Patriots player might actually venture onto this message board and then pick my particular post, out of the hundreds that are here, which talks about them in such a glowing light, but if what I say impacts how they perform out on the football field then I truly have missed my calling in this world.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:38 PM   #29
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I love the pats kicking ass just as much as the next homer , but remember to stay humble.

Luckily, my humbleness is, perhaps, my most outstandingly amazing quality.
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Because I dont want to?

I have no impact on whether we beat the Bengals or not.
The only impact I have is what I would like to talk about.
I think it is very reasonable to talk about how good this team looks. I have no need to have a discussion about superstition, or pretneding that my confidence affects the team.

Last year, before the playoffs (I believe I wrote that before the playoffs, not before the Colts game) I wanted to discuss what I thought the team would do. I did that, I turned out wrong by a little. You seem to imply that had an influence on the game??????????
I found more enjoyment in giving my opinion, and supporting it with reasons, than I would have found typing "I have nothing to say, because I am not 100% sure what the outcome will be"
I made no implications about you influencing any game. I believe that the thread showed up just after the Chargers game, as if it really matters...

You turned out wrong by 100%. We didn't even make the superbowl. We never even showed up for the game.

There is plenty to say without saying THIS WILL HAPPEN and then being dead wrong.

If you didn't come around to dis people for wanting to stay humble and taking it one game at a time, and calling random people chicken littles because they don't make inaccurate predicitions as if it were fact, than we would not be having this discussion.

So if somebody threatened to end your life at the business end of a gun, you are saying that we will not lose a game this year. I guess I ain't smart enough to figure that stuff out so far in advance. Silly me.
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