Goodell asking for tapes dating back to 2000 - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

FirstAndGoal · 09-18-2007, 10:33 PM

Only the Jets care because it makes them feel good about not winning any games.

ChoWZa · 09-18-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstAndGoal

Only the Jets care because it makes them feel good about not winning any games.

haha so true.

I think its important to Kraft that the authenticity of the Superbowls be protected.

Kraft is in a bit of a tug of war. On one hand he's trying to uphold the integrity of the franchise and on the other hand he wants the Patriots to continue being the elite team of the NFL. I'm sure Kraft understands some moral boundaries must be crossed to continue success. If Kraft were to force Belichick's hand into only signing players who have impeccable records outside the game and get in the way of the Moss, Stallworth, Meriweather etc signings you think we would be talking about the Patriots being undefeated right now? =)

FirstAndGoal · 09-18-2007, 11:16 PM

Why do "fans" of football think they know the Patriots organization so well when I can point to contridictions in media reports every article?

The Pats have always sought to maximize their return on the dollar. That's it. If you behave and perform, they keep you. If you don't, they weigh that against your value. Everything else is a media fabrication.

I don't think Kraft is torn at all. I'm convinced he sees it for what it is, a witch hunt. The problem with the ball boy coach is that he's messing with NFL dollars now. The owners don't like that and this is going to come to an end very soon I suspect. I wouldn't be surprised if your ball boy coach is the one who ends up getting himself in a mess of trouble.

***BelichickFan*** · 09-18-2007, 11:59 PM

If Badell were to find something (which I seriously doubt) it still invalidates NOTHING until he does an equal investigation of the other teams.

IF we cheated in SB 36, 38, 39 - who's to say the opponents didn't ?

mykl · 09-19-2007, 12:03 AM

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I think he should do a complete audit of all 32 teams. Get all their tapes etc. And expose just how wide spread and common place this has been. If his intent is really to put an end to this then get to the bottom of it and and end it. Instead of just using the our team as the "Patsies". Let's not forget the tape that got this all started was confiscated 8 minutes into the Jest game. The NFL was prepared to do this regardless of Mangina.

I'm not sure that this is a good idea at all. It is in the best interest of everyone that the NFL is not thought of by the casual fan as a league of cheaters. We were blatant and took our lumps, but what Goodell really needs to do is reign in the coaches and players that have been running their mouths off. They and the media that cover them really don't seem to realize that they are kicking the gift horse in the mouth. If people lose interest in the NFL, guess who loses money and jobs? That's right...the same people who are bashing us now.

Pats_AZ · 09-19-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FirstAndGoal

Unless they find something different, I think this issue is dead. They're collecting up the tapes because they don't want BB to use them, they're not doing it because they are wondering if it only happened for one game. I'm sure Bill said he has been doing it.

I think this is just a case of the NFL collecting the material.

Then Goodell should ask for tapes from ALL the teams. If they take away the Pats video and notes then wouldn't that give every other team that plays the Pats an unfair advantage?

RayClay · 09-19-2007, 02:23 AM

They're requesting notes too, right?

I think Kraft owns one of the largest paper companies in the world.

If he got some printing press working 24 seven copying some boiler plate scouting garbage and boxing it, he could just have a semi and a work crew fill the Comish's office up for him.