Stupidity from John Clayton - New England Patriots Forums

***ctpatsfan77*** · 09-13-2007, 10:47 PM

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Goodell said he considered a suspension, but he felt the draft choice penalty and the fines have a more lasting effect on the franchise. That's a fine premise, but spying affects the outcome of individual games. Taking Belichick out of one game could affect the Patriots' chances of making the playoffs. For example, he's still coaching Sunday's game against the Chargers, and if he wins, he will have a potential home field tie-breaker if the two teams finish with the same record.

Here's the problem with Goodell's decision. Whether by design or not, the Patriots had themselves covered for such a penalty because they are so good at what they do. They acquired the 49ers' first-round pick in a trade that enabled the 49ers to select Joe Staley. They have an additional third-round pick from the Raiders in a trade. They have enough draft choices to survive the loss of one first-round choice.

Initial reaction around the league was negative. At the very least, Belichick should have been suspended one or two games along with the draft choice penalties. Those two games could be the difference between the Patriots making the playoffs or not making the playoffs. They have a tough schedule, and it will be hard for them to win more than 11 games with the quality of opponents they'll face.

Umm . . . if you're arguing that the Pats will have trouble winning more than 11 games, then:

(A) you're already assuming the Pats are probably going to lose to San Diego anyways, so what difference would not having Belichick make?

(B) aren't you're also arguing that the JEST (or, even more improbably, the Bills or Dolphins) can do better in their 12 games against common opponents than the Patriots can?

About the only difference a suspension would have made is whether or not the Pats have a first-round bye, not whether they make the playoffs or not.

frankiesfly · 09-13-2007, 10:59 PM

Thats why we lose a first round pick if we make the playoffs. Goodell pretty much knows that. How he doesn't makes me wonder? Did he forget how pathetic the rest of the division is?

CT_Pats_Fan · 09-13-2007, 11:02 PM

Isn't the title of this thread redundant?

***Gwedd*** · 09-13-2007, 11:05 PM

Yes,

perhaps Mr. peabody could use the WayBack Machine to step back in time and rewrite his column. Or maybe find a Proctologist to help unstick his head.....

***feelthepain*** · 09-13-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

Umm . . . if you're arguing that the Pats will have trouble winning more than 11 games, then:

(A) you're already assuming the Pats are probably going to lose to San Diego anyways, so what difference would not having Belichick make?

(B) aren't you're also arguing that the JEST (or, even more improbably, the Bills or Dolphins) can do better in their 12 games against common opponents than the Patriots can?

About the only difference a suspension would have made is whether or not the Pats have a first-round bye, not whether they make the playoffs or not.

If the Pats are so good, why cheat???

PF1996 · 09-13-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

Umm . . . if you're arguing that the Pats will have trouble winning more than 11 games, then:

(A) you're already assuming the Pats are probably going to lose to San Diego anyways, so what difference would not having Belichick make?

(B) aren't you're also arguing that the JEST (or, even more improbably, the Bills or Dolphins) can do better in their 12 games against common opponents than the Patriots can?

About the only difference a suspension would have made is whether or not the Pats have a first-round bye, not whether they make the playoffs or not.

Man...the media isn't even trying to pretend that this is about "punishment for breaking the rules". They just don't want to see the Pats make the playoffs and win the SB. These guys are sad....

***ColtsTroll*** · 09-13-2007, 11:07 PM

"Expect the Competition Committee to receive approval on using radio communication systems for defensive players. That eliminates the need for hand signals unless the equipment breaks down. The systems will cost owners several hundred thousand dollars. The last vote for the system failed by three votes. For what it's worth, Belichick voted against using radio communication on defense."

What a disgrace of a man. You guys got off easy. At least your 3 super bowls will now have a big asterisk next to them.

Wonder how you'll fare without cheating from now on. You may beat lesser teams but know this, when you face the Colts in Indy you'll realize how much harder we are to beat when you're not cheating. Brace yourselves.

JJDChE · 09-13-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtsTroll

"Expect the Competition Committee to receive approval on using radio communication systems for defensive players. That eliminates the need for hand signals unless the equipment breaks down. The systems will cost owners several hundred thousand dollars. The last vote for the system failed by three votes. For what it's worth, Belichick voted against using radio communication on defense."

What a disgrace of a man. You guys got off easy. At least your 3 super bowls will now have a big asterisk next to them.

Wonder how you'll fare without cheating from now on. You may beat lesser teams but know this, when you face the Colts in Indy you'll realize how much harder we are to beat when you're not cheating. Brace yourselves.

If you're this bored you should seriously think about taking up a hobby, like knitting or GFY.

mykl · 09-14-2007, 12:26 AM

Where'd Sean Salisbury go? At least someone was being supportive over at ESPN...now everything is quite negative.

sebman2112 · 09-14-2007, 12:39 AM

Look at the Patriots schedule and tell me for sure they aren't going to win more than 11 games.... Yea I could see them losing 4 or maybe even five games on their schedule but I don't see any of the games on their schedule as a sure lose. and I could almost as easily see them only losing 1-2 games.

What's funny is Clayton still has the Patriots as his SB team but for some reason he thinks their only going to win 11 games?