PATSNUTme

Well it's finally happened, as we all knew it would, the Patriots have been caught cheating. That "win at all cost" attitude has finally beeen exposed as cheating.

How else can it be explained that the Patriots have won 3 Super bowls, been to 4 AFCCG's, won 5 AFC East titles, a 21 game win streak, and winning 7 straight games against the awesome Jets on their home field. It had to be cheating and now the chickens have come home to roost.

And we knew about it and suuported this team and ignored all the cheating that has gone on. We have enabled them with the sold out stadiums and our fanitic support all of these years.

So, do you feel dirty now? (Well do you, punk! A little Dirty Harry thrown in.)

JR4

Not dirty but .. I will be disappointed in Belichick if he knew about this and
allowed it. ( never mind even initiated it )

The buck stops with him. He gets the praise for Superbowls won so he
should get the wrath for wrong deeds as well.

IF he allowed this, he has allowed something to taint the reputation
of alot of guys who have work very hard and put it all out for the
team. That IMO, is unforgiveable no matter how smart he is ... no matter
how many super bowls he has won.

IF he is guilty,
It really doesn't matter if he got little to no advantage form doing this.
what matters is he will have brought disgrace to this team where
only admiration should be.

I don't feel dirty .... but I am very very disappointed in Belichick and
if this proves true or even leaves a lot of doubt I will never look
at him with the repect I once had.

Sorry for all you guys who defend him inspite of every thing
... this is how I feel.

I love this team and the players on it and this issue has
the potential to unjustly degraded them.

true_patriot

Let me go on record and say - this doesn't not change how I feel about Patriots as a team, as an organziation, or even how I feel about Bill. This would be my most favorite team - as long as I live. My only concern out of this whole cameragate is the 'perception' about The New England Patiots - outside of New England.

I am afraid that all Patriot haters would claim from now onwards - the reason we were so good for the past 6 years because we were cheating. This is not at all true. This directly rubs against Brady's, Bruschi's, Vrabel's of the team- and its a knock against the team/organization and Bill personally.

Phokus

Not really. It's against the rules to videotape another team, but so what, everyone steals signals. Despite it being against the rules, the seriousness of the violation in terms of the spirit of the game is laughable. Stealing signals has been around forever (teams used to employ lip readers to steal signals before coaches covered their mouths). To think the Patriots are the only ones who steal signals or who are the only ones who use cameras to do so is naive. All 32 NFL teams have scouts at games stealing signals and if they aren't, then their organization sucks. I'm more pissed off about Rodney's HGH thing.

MrTibbs

When a team keeps winning as they have done they should know that other teams will do anything to taint their image or bring them down completely. Now every single thing they do will be scrutinized and put under a microscope.

If it's true it's extremely damaging and will forever taint the image of what they have accomplished in my opinion.


BUT the Dolphins did that to them last season and nobody really said squat. They smashed the Patriots 21-0 and the word came out that they had the teams signals and knew all the calls. I simply held the Patriots in a higher standard then the lowly Dolphins but I guess all the teams look for every advantage.

PatriotsReign

Blah, blah, blah...and we're disappointed in your weak fan support...you've GOT to be kidding!

NO team or player is perfect. Especially when is comes to the "Spying" game. ALL teams participate in this type of behavior and I agree it's stupid...BUT THEY ALL DO IT!

Bill's Girl

You took your Rodney sign down.... Is this tongue in cheek or are you serious?

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363839

Remember guys, when you're number 1, they're all out to get you.
Ever since last year the sports media has been throwing crap at The Pats.
Remember how they tried to accuse BB of having a meltdown during the post AFCCG interview. That did not fly for them.
Well they're still doing it. Every little nugget they can dig or dream up is being thrown out there.
Because we all know Rodney is the ONLY player in the NFL to in indulge in HGH.
And we all know that the Pats(should they be found guilty) are the ONLY team in the NFL to indulge in opponent spying.
And we all know that Randy has lost a step, is a cancer in the lockerroom and will be traded next week.
They did it to the Steelers of the 70's the niners and the Cowboys.
They are doing it to us now.
Be happy everybody because the Pats are going to win the SB this year and the whole league knows it.

everlong

You have to ask yourself are you being consistent or being a homer on these issues.

When Miami stole our line calls my thought was isn't everybody trying to study that stuff to gain an advantage? So I think of this as no different.

When Merriman got suspended I thought he deserved it. When Rodney got suspended I thought he deserved it.

It's just going to be a bigger deal in the national media because it was the Partiots getting caught spying and using HGH not Miami or Merriman.

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PATSNUTme

No, he has been suspended for 4 weeks and so I took down the sig for 4 weeks. It will be back when Rodney comes back (and HELL will be coming with him)