PATRIOTSFANINPA

I always liked the gamble of going for it instead of the regular safe punting situation in terms of short yardage...I like the accuscore evaluation as posted on the ESPN website in today's TMQ

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...4&sportCat=nfl

Maybe BB will read this and change a few plays this year,especially with this offensive juggernaut

patfanken

I haven't read the article yet, but BB goes for it on 4th down more than any HC in the league. Maybe he read it.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

Do you have any statistics.link to back that up patfanken?..Would be interesting to see if that is actually the case and the Pats go for it more often than any other team.

I thought I read somewhere a few weeks ago that the Seahawks were the team to go for it more on 4th and short..I could be wrong.

cstjohn17

No point playing the game, the computer says:
http://accuscore.com/option,com_acc_...207/game_id,6/

69% of the simulations we win, average score 23.9 - 18.6

Weather looks good as well
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...3092&prod=xoap
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On Punting - This brings back bad memories. The one specific time we should have used 2 downs to get a 1st down we threw an incomplete pass to Troy Brown. Let me refresh you, 3rd and 4 NE 46 versus Indy.

3-4-NE 46 (2:30) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete short right to T.Brown (B.Sanders).

They should have run the damn ball, a first down would have essentially sealed the game. Indy had one timeout left.
Run the ball on 3rd down, Heath Evans trips and falls forward for 2 yards bringing up a 4th and 2. Indy would have used their final timeout.
On 4th down find a way to get 2 yards and win the game.

Ahhh, this will drive me crazy until the season actually starts.

T-ShirtDynasty

I'd be willing to bet that that Patriots were in the top 5 in the league in 4th down attempts, and probably the top one or two in 4th down conversion success last year, while the Seahawks were at the bottom in both stats.

ctpatsfan77

As far as BB going for it on 4th down, it's worth pointing out that a lot of those situations would have been kicks, not punts.

I also pointed out the rather interesting fact that none of Gostkowski's kicks last season started out with a snap between the 20 and the 30 (i.e., a 37-yard to 47-yard attempt); every time the Pats had 4th down there, they went for it.

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PATRIOTSFANINPA

Is that fact or your opinion about the Seahawks in bottom of both? - Just wondering where you got that info.

Mix

Seattle had 8 4th down attempts which was 31st in the league and only converted 2 which left them tied for 30th.

Patriots were tied for 5th with 20 4th down attempts and converted 80% to lead the league.

Pawn512

Teams generally go for on fourth down for 2 very different reasons:

1. They are behind late in the game and have little to lose. Behind by 10 with a minute to go most coaches will go for it on 4th and 5 from their 20.

2. They have an aggresive head coach who will go for it on certain 4th down situations more often than most in earlier, closer game situations.

Almost all of the Pats fourth down attempts fall in the second category... which is likely why we led the league in conversions rate. That we had such a high number of 4th down attempts while going 12-4 (thus minimizing the attempts in the first category) tells you something about how aggresive the Pats are in those situations.

Gwedd

Fellers,

One of the things that has troubled me for years, is why so many teams will risk punting when backed up within their own 5 yard line, or punting from inside their end zone.

If you are ahead, why not simply take the safety and then get a free kick from further out? That's what BB did in the Denver game. He knew the quality of our defense, and rather than risk giving Denver field position on our side of the 50, he took the two point for the safety, and then we ended up being place Denver way back on their side of the field.

It just seems to me that if you have a quality defense, then taking the safety is the best bet when inside your own 5 and facing fourth down, rather than punting it away.

Respects,