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View Poll Results: Who Will win the AFC East?
New England Patriots 94 89.52%
New York Jets 5 4.76%
Buffalo Bills 3 2.86%
Miami Dolphins 3 2.86%
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:37 AM   #11
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Pats will walk to the title this year. Bills finish second, Jets third, Fins last.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:38 AM   #12
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New England Patriots
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Buffalo Bills??

I say the Dolphins finish ahead of the Bills this year.

Heres how it goes
NY Jets
Miami Dolphins
Buff Bills
NE Patriots

...C'mon time for you pats fans to face real life
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:40 AM   #13
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Buffalo Bills??

I say the Dolphins finish ahead of the Bills this year.

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NY Jets
Miami Dolphins
Buff Bills
NE Patriots

...C'mon time for you pats fans to face real life
I know you are just trolling, but speaking of real life, how are the Jets going to win the east with their schedule, coupled with the fact that they can't stop the run and they have a pathetic offensive line that got worse with Kendall now gone? Seriously, if the Jets go 8-8, you should have a parade.
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I know you are just trolling, but speaking of real life, how are the Jets going to win the east with their schedule, coupled with the fact that they can't stop the run and they have a pathetic offensive line that got worse with Kendall now gone? Seriously, if the Jets go 8-8, you should have a parade.
First of all their schedule is NOT that tough. Remember, we still play the dolphins and bills (w/o Mcgahee) twice, the Giants, Browns, and Redskins, all of which SHOULD be wins. Then, we play the Cheifs, Eagles, Cowboys, Steelers and Bengals and Titans, which more likely then not will be 'toss up' games. Therefore, if we beat all the teams (7) we are supposed to beat, and split the 'toss up games', that would make us 10-6, which is my prediction for the Jets.
However, if the LG position is not improved, I'd be parading if we go 4-12!
As for stopping the run, we added a lot of guys this offseason to create compettition and its also another year in the Mangini system, so we'll see what happens...
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:58 AM   #15
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First of all their schedule is NOT that tough. Remember, we still play the dolphins and bills (w/o Mcgahee) twice, the Giants, Browns, and Redskins, all of which SHOULD be wins. Then, we play the Cheifs, Eagles, Cowboys, Steelers and Bengals and Titans, which more likely then not will be 'toss up' games. Therefore, if we beat all the teams (7) we are supposed to beat, and split the 'toss up games', that would make us 10-6, which is my prediction for the Jets.
However, if the LG position is not improved, I'd be parading if we go 4-12!
As for stopping the run, we added a lot of guys this offseason to create compettition and its also another year in the Mangini system, so we'll see what happens...
First of all, its not Mangini's system, its Belichick's system. Second, the Jets dont have the talent to beat the Patriots twice (which is what they'll need to do to win the east). I dont see how they stop anyone's running game and with Kendall gone, teams are going to be attacking Pennington at every snap. Jets still have two sophomores on the o-line and now they get a freshmen. Optimism is great, but be realistic.

ps- Did you say that NYJ's game with Cincy is a toss-up? I think the Bengals could win that game by 21+ with NY's secondary what it is.
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First of all, its not Mangini's system, its Belichick's system. Second, the Jets dont have the talent to beat the Patriots twice (which is what they'll need to do to win the east). I dont see how they stop anyone's running game and with Kendall gone, teams are going to be attacking Pennington at every snap. Jets still have two sophomores on the o-line and now they get a freshmen. Optimism is great, but be realistic.

ps- Did you say that NYJ's game with Cincy is a toss-up? I think the Bengals could win that game by 21+ with NY's secondary what it is.
First of all, its Mangini's system, to say that Mangini just copies everything Belly did is just plain arrogant. Mangini has learned from a lot of good coaches over the years, including Bellicheck, Parcells, Crennell, Weis, Marchiabroda (spelling may be off) Groh, etc, etc...

Secon of all, I dont know how you can say that about the Jets talent, and Im being honest. Last year every NFL expert in the nation had the Jets winning 6 AT BEST, and look what happened. Now we actually have a consistent RB to hand off to and 2 WR's that were nothing short of incredible vs the Pats last year.

Secondary? Are you talking? Sure Samuel's pretty good but who else? Now I want you to be honest which would you rather have...

Hobbs, Samuel, Gay, James/Jackson, or Dyson, Revis, Miller, Barrett, and Drew Coleman? Yes Samuel>any Jets CB but I think its rather obvious that the Jets have much more depth at the position.

From what I saw from the OL this preseason, I agree that if we do not improve there it will be a VERY, VERY long year.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:33 AM   #17
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First of all, its Mangini's system, to say that Mangini just copies everything Belly did is just plain arrogant. Mangini has learned from a lot of good coaches over the years, including Bellicheck, Parcells, Crennell, Weis, Marchiabroda (spelling may be off) Groh, etc, etc...

Secon of all, I dont know how you can say that about the Jets talent, and Im being honest. Last year every NFL expert in the nation had the Jets winning 6 AT BEST, and look what happened. Now we actually have a consistent RB to hand off to and 2 WR's that were nothing short of incredible vs the Pats last year.

Secondary? Are you talking? Sure Samuel's pretty good but who else? Now I want you to be honest which would you rather have...

Hobbs, Samuel, Gay, James/Jackson, or Dyson, Revis, Miller, Barrett, and Drew Coleman? Yes Samuel>any Jets CB but I think its rather obvious that the Jets have much more depth at the position.

From what I saw from the OL this preseason, I agree that if we do not improve there it will be a VERY, VERY long year.

Well, you're wrong about Manginis "system". I dont know about the secondary's to be honest. Considering the Pats front 7 is biblically better than NY's, the Pats secondary has much less time to cover WR's than the Jets do.

I'm not sold on Revis at all. In college, he faced exactly ONE conference team that threw the ball (Louisville). He'll be good, but he's not going to be Champ Bailey.

I guess I'll ask you, overall, which roster would you rather have? The Patriots or the Jets?
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First of all their schedule is NOT that tough. Remember, we still play the dolphins and bills (w/o Mcgahee) twice, the Giants, Browns, and Redskins, all of which SHOULD be wins. Then, we play the Cheifs, Eagles, Cowboys, Steelers and Bengals and Titans, which more likely then not will be 'toss up' games. Therefore, if we beat all the teams (7) we are supposed to beat, and split the 'toss up games', that would make us 10-6, which is my prediction for the Jets.
However, if the LG position is not improved, I'd be parading if we go 4-12!
As for stopping the run, we added a lot of guys this offseason to create compettition and its also another year in the Mangini system, so we'll see what happens...


Jets gave up 4.6 yards per carry last year to opponents. Guess what the Jets gave up in the preaseason per rush with the starters on the field? Thats right 4.6 per rush........the rush D is no better then last season. The OLINE is a disaster and Chad is well Chad. Going 8-8 would be a great season for the team in the ugly uniforms.

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