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Old 05-31-2007, 10:05 PM   #41
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I'll say it again. Satire doesn't have to be funny. There's a difference. The most famous piece of satire ever written was horrific and sad, not funny at all.
Explain how this qualifies as satire.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:15 PM   #42
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Explain how this qualifies as satire.
Poking fun at those who think Belichick is a dreck of a human being.

i.e. Belichick thinks of another way to cut a football player. Solomon Wilcots and Esiason say, "I told you so. He's evil and mean."

Does it qualify?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:17 PM   #43
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There is crazy **** and then there's just plain ****.
If there are no editors or overseers of some kind,then maybe this so-called corporation consists of about 5 people typing out of a flat in NYC. Either way,if you care so much about that particular point,why don't you just write to them and ask.
It really seems like you care more than I do. Ya see, for me, I just assumed it was all bogus made up crap that needed no editing. I just can't imagine why they'd have an editor. To fact-check utter lies?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:27 PM   #44
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It really seems like you care more than I do. Ya see, for me, I just assumed it was all bogus made up crap that needed no editing. I just can't imagine why they'd have an editor. To fact-check utter lies?
Editing is only "fact-checking"? There's nothing in the Onion that's fact,why would fact-checking even enter into it? They aren't reporters. My point was,somewhere along the line (and I'm sure there IS indeed a line) more than one person saw it and thought it was OK to print. I DO care that obviously more than 1-2 people found that particular piece to be acceptable. Obviously you find it acceptable too. Obviously I do not. Voila,end of story.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:34 AM   #45
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Would I have written it or approved it? No. But the fact of the matter is that The Onion crucifies everyone. Have you laughed at stories that made fun of starving kids in Africa, or homicidal housewives, or the actions of our own elected government officials?

This story is no different, with the exception that we feel personally involved. It's perfect fun to laugh at others, but when it hits home then it's not funny.

Objectively, say if it was PURE FICTION that a Pats player was found dead with that headline...pretty funny? Yeah.

Of course, in reality, I'm pretty bummed about the whole deal, particularly since I'm facing with the first mortality of my life soon.

But to get high and mighty and take offense to one thing but laugh at the rest is an example of how cold and callous everyone is, and serves only to personify the perceived inhumanity The Onion is now accused of.
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Would I have written it or approved it? No. But the fact of the matter is that The Onion crucifies everyone. Have you laughed at stories that made fun of starving kids in Africa, or homicidal housewives, or the actions of our own elected government officials?

This story is no different, with the exception that we feel personally involved. It's perfect fun to laugh at others, but when it hits home then it's not funny.

Objectively, say if it was PURE FICTION that a Pats player was found dead with that headline...pretty funny? Yeah.

Of course, in reality, I'm pretty bummed about the whole deal, particularly since I'm facing with the first mortality of my life soon.

But to get high and mighty and take offense to one thing but laugh at the rest is an example of how cold and callous everyone is, and serves only to personify the perceived inhumanity The Onion is now accused of.
Satire, and for that matter humor in general, is best when it pokes fun at the powerful. While Hill was certainly physically powerful, he was just another man in the grand scheme. That's why this doesn't work and isn't at all funny. This is no different than poking fun at a child who gets hit by a car and dies. That wouldn't be funny either. I like the Onion, but this was a bad choice. Period.
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Hyundai had an ad on that site. I emailed them also. The address is

ConsumerAffairs@hmausa.com

send 'em a nasty one too.
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It just didn't work on a humorous, satirical, or humane level. If it had any of those 3, it would have been much more palatable. As it is now, it's just meanly stupid and sophomoric.
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sheesh people, it isn't too hard to just blow stuff off without getting offended. disagree and move on.

maybe you guys should be upset at Marquise for being too dumb to wear a life preserver. Do you guys get all in a huff about the Darwin Awards? the only difference here is that Hill didn't die spectacularly.

sure the Onion's take is questionable, but it's hardly worth the effort of an angry letter.
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Satire, and for that matter humor in general, is best when it pokes fun at the powerful. While Hill was certainly physically powerful, he was just another man in the grand scheme. That's why this doesn't work and isn't at all funny. This is no different than poking fun at a child who gets hit by a car and dies. That wouldn't be funny either. I like the Onion, but this was a bad choice. Period.
I absolutely agree.

But...The Onion has never restricted themselves to these guidelines. My point, again, was that selectively being revolted isn't exactly grounds to burn down the castle Frankenstein-style...
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