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Old 04-03-2007, 04:22 PM   #21
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The real question is, who's the better holder?
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:23 PM   #22
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The real question is, who's the better holder?
Considering Sauerbrun doesn't hold I'm going to go with Miller.
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If we don't match, do we have some draft pick in return ?
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If we don't match, do we have some draft pick in return ?
None at all.
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None at all.
Sauerbrun would go into the compensation equation and, right now, we don't stand to gain anything.
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It may depend on Miller's health as well as how much the contract is.....and how good the 2nd year kickers are and...I would love to keep Miller..but?? The injury..how bad was it..
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Que? Much better?

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43.1 average
35.9 net average
247 kicks inside the 20
101 touchbacks (which isn't a good thing)

Sauerbrun:
44.0 average
36.0 net average
250 kicks inside the 20
102 touchbacks


I'm not going to stand here and say that Sauerbrun is the much better punter either. I do however prefer Sauerbrun's leg strength over Miller's.
OK. I should have been more specific. Miller was the better punter last year, even taking into consideration his injury.

I think that its interesting that Miller has 247 kicks inside the 20 on 747 punts while Sauerbrun had 250 kicks inside the 20 on 842 punts.

One thing you missed is that Miller has only given up 4 punt returns for TDs while Sauerbrun has given up 8.

Of note is that prior to the Minnesota game, Miller was the best punter in the league and the Pats punt coverage was only allowing something like 5 yards per return. And it went up to that because of the Buffalo game. Prior to Buffalo, it was hovering around 1.3 yards per return.
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Que? Much better?

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Miller:
43.1 average
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247 kicks inside the 20
101 touchbacks (which isn't a good thing)

Sauerbrun:
44.0 average
36.0 net average
250 kicks inside the 20
102 touchbacks


I'm not going to stand here and say that Sauerbrun is the much better punter either. I do however prefer Sauerbrun's leg strength over Miller's.
Thank you. Also Sauerbrun also is a 3 time pro bowler. Milller once .
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Thank you. Also Sauerbrun also is a 3 time pro bowler. Milller once .
Who cares about the friggin Pro-Bowl. That means NOTHING.

Sauerbrun STUNK last year in the regular season for us. 25 yards per punt return? All because he thought he knew better than the coach.

The only PLUS I can see of having Sauerbrun on the team is as a reserve kicker. Though we have one of those as well in Welker.
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The fact that Saurbrun does not hold sways things towards Miller IMHO. As long as the Pats feel he is 100% healthy.

I do hate giving the Broncos anything though, even if it is only a punter.

Maybe we should match the offer, take two into camp and screw Denver. Or, match it and then they can give us #6 or something.
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