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Old 03-30-2007, 09:06 AM   #1
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Default In Past 10 Yrs, the 34 QB's Selected in 1st Two Rounds Have Won 2 Superbowls Combined

One was Peyton Manning, and the other was Ben Roethlisberger.

http://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/1290730/detail.html

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Old 03-30-2007, 09:07 AM   #2
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One was Peyton Manning, and the other was Charlie Batch (who was a BACKUP on Pittsburgh's superbowl team).

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Are QB's and the passing game overhyped?
No, I think QB's in the first round are overhyped.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:09 AM   #3
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Correction: The other QB was Ben R., not Batch (who was a backup for Pittsburgh and thus doesn't count according to the article)
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That is a little selective statistics going on there. In the last ten years, Brady has won 3 of the ten SB in question. Two other SBs were won almost entirley by the defense (Baltimore & Tampa).

Look back twenty years and then you have Aikman (#1 overall) with three wins Elway (#1 overall) with two wins. Steve Young (Supplemental due only to the old USFL) would have been a 1st rounder. Jim Kelly (1st rounder) made it to the SB 4 times. Bledsoe et al. Phils Simms (1 SB, 1 on IR) was a 1st rounder. Marino 1st rounder,

Also look at the teams that have lost SB because of bad QBs. Sexy Rexy's performance was only the second worst in SB history compared to Neil O'Donnell's personally handing Dallas their last SB.

Having a high draft pick as your QB, absolutely does not guarenntee you anything. But how many people here gave the Bears any chance of beating the Colts (or the Pats or Bolts for that matter) with Grossman at the helm?
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FTWilliams, that may have been true 20 years ago, but what has happened in the past 10 years? In the salary cap era, high QB draft picks are overrated, overpaid, and eat up a disproportionate share of the cap space.
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FTWilliams, that may have been true 20 years ago, but what has happened in the past 10 years? In the salary cap era, high QB draft picks are overrated, overpaid, and eat up a disproportionate share of the cap space.

Well you could say that it's the recent trend. The past two years only teams with QBs picked in the 1st round have won a Super Bowl.
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Are QB's and the passing game overhyped?
If you want to make the point that teams are reaching on draft day in hopes of finding a great QB, you may have a point. But taking that point and calling QBs overhyped is a huge leap.

The clear cut best two QBs in the game have won 4 of the last 6 Super Bowls - this decade is hardly showing a trend of great QBs not being important to winning.
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Well you could say that it's the recent trend. The past two years only teams with QBs picked in the 1st round have won a Super Bowl.
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I don't have the stats, but I bet QBs drafted in the 6th round have had the most success in this entire century.
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I think a more accurate way of looking @ this would to go back over the last 10 Super Bowls & the winning Quarterback (since 5 years of developement was previously considered the standard). If you do this you include Elway & Dilfer, and 5 of the past 10 Super Bowls were won with 1st round QB's.
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That is a little selective statistics going on there. In the last ten years, Brady has won 3 of the ten SB in question. Two other SBs were won almost entirley by the defense (Baltimore & Tampa).

Look back twenty years and then you have Aikman (#1 overall) with three wins Elway (#1 overall) with two wins. Steve Young (Supplemental due only to the old USFL) would have been a 1st rounder. Jim Kelly (1st rounder) made it to the SB 4 times. Bledsoe et al. Phils Simms (1 SB, 1 on IR) was a 1st rounder. Marino 1st rounder,

Also look at the teams that have lost SB because of bad QBs. Sexy Rexy's performance was only the second worst in SB history compared to Neil O'Donnell's personally handing Dallas their last SB.

Having a high draft pick as your QB, absolutely does not guarenntee you anything. But how many people here gave the Bears any chance of beating the Colts (or the Pats or Bolts for that matter) with Grossman at the helm?
I don't quite get your point, in that Grossman was also a first rounder.
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