DW Toys

Cousin,
I agree with everything you have said. Wilson has been digressing for the last couple of years even before the injuries. When Harrison went down, instead of taking over the leadership of the DB's, he looked lost.
One way or the other we have to prepare for LWR (life without Rodney) and get someone to step in right now and learn while Harrison can show him the ropes. Wilson cannot do that.
Hawkins was a stop gap.
Seems that Landry is the best fit to draft, but won't be there. The word on Nelson is that he is not that good of tackler and Merriweather is too small for an NFL safety. Hell, Sanders is 5' 10" and 205, and he was too short and got pushed around.
Oh well. You can say one thing about Sanders, he might have been too short, couldn't cover my mother-in-law (see Colts game) and got moved easily.....But he wasn't that good either!
The day one draft guy I like is this kid from Utah who can play S, CB, LB, RB, and holder. Eric Weddle is a perfect BB sort who might last until the third round or Sabby Piscatelli of Oregon St. who is a monster with speed who will last until then as well.
Idea! Wilson is in his last year of contract and the Bears need a safety. The could also use a good DE backup like say....Marquis Hill. What do you think about this deal. Hill, Wilson and one of our #1's for Briggs and their early #2 (37?)they got from swapping with the J...E...T...S!
I think Briggs could play ILB, he' young and what a cast around him. Why wouldn't he want to play with this D?
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JackBauer

That is absolutely untrue. Geno was always the starter when healthy.

IMO, unless we draft an elite safety high (perhaps in spite of, depending on the learning curve), Geno will start next season. He's a good player when he doesn't have a revolving door next to him.

At SS, Rodney's near the end. I could see him in on running downs but I also see Sanders expanding his PT. Contrary to DWToys' post, Sanders played quite well last year (and would be even better with a better FS).

Jimke

If healthy, Wilson will probably start. He will also have a first

round draft pick poised to take over if Wilson screws up.

Lampshade

Seemed to me that Geno was finding his form again just before he went down for the year. Also if I remember rightly, due to Rodney not being 100% Geno was being asked to play closer to the LOS than in previous years, and was looking good doing it.

Of all the non-Rodney Harrison options at safety, Wilson seems to me to be the only one who is equally as effective vs both the run and the pass. That might give him a slight edge,

VJCPatriot

I was with you until you cooked up that weird trade for Briggs. It won't work because of the $$$. Briggs wants to get PAID and we won't be able to give Briggs his RESPECT (read CASH) and sign our rookies at the same time. Plus on top of that you want to convert him into an ILB when Briggs has made it clear he prefers to be an OLB in a 4-3 system not a 3-4, no less an ILB.

I think Wilson will be a starting safety in 2007 but he can be replaced and better not get complacent about his job.

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Bobs My Uncle

I highly doubt there is a sfaety in the draft who would beat Geno out this year. Not in a complicated defense like the Pats run. Highly doubt it.

mgcolby

Wilson has proven that he can't play SS. See the Hawkins signing 2005.

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AzPatsFan

I think you have several things quite wrong. We have eight or nine Safeties on the roster and can only keep five at most. Geno, when he was healthy, was a near pro bowl FS. When Rodney went down in 2005 there was nobody except an immature rookie to play SS, and the Pats went through a succession of one week failures playing alongside Geno. When Hawkins showed up, Geno got hurt.

IMHO the Pats have a superb secondary composed of a Pro bowler with Asante, a very good young corner in Hobbs, and proven starters in Gay and Scott for depth at CB. Their Safeties are Wilson and a now-experienced Sanders, with Rodney and Hawkins and Gay for depth, and Baker, Andrews, Scott, and Mitchell for even more depth.

With regard to Lance Briggs, he has said he doesn't fit in a 3-4 and he ought to know. He complains that he plays second fiddle to Urlacher at LB in Chicago. How would he like to play second, third, fourth, or maybe fifth fiddle to Bruschi, Vrabel, AD, and/or Colvin? That's why it would never happen !

everlong

Much like the WR position I look for the Pats to bring in competition for the FS spot, be it the draft, FA, or both.

Wilson hasn't played good FS in two years and whenever he gets matched up one on one he gets beat so unless things change he's not moving to CB either. He's a UFA after this year so maybe he'll be more motivated and will put up a good year but if he's going to have to earn it.

If Milloy had to earn every cent Wilson will be held accountable and BB will bring in guys to push him and if need be push him out.

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DW Toys

Cousin,
The Briggs thing was just a "Would-ya-if-I". If you read anything about the guy, he wants to be "THE GUY". It's how you read it I guess. You can read it as #1 it's "me before team" , or #2 he is asking the team to "ride his shoulders", and with the case of the Bears, Urlacher already has that job. I know it has been said he prefers a 4-3 D, but given the fact that he could be the pivot guy for many years to come if he agrees to play MLB, especially when Teddy retires, I say he is willing to accept that. We also know the Bears are looking for a safety and some DL help and they lost a couple of guys to FA. But it just doesn't end there.

Even if a deal could be worked, just how much money would this dude want. I know it's all a mute point, but just a fun thought to stick him in the middle next to Teddy and a rotation outside of AT, Colvin and Vrabel. Briggs ceratinly has the size.

I just threw a Wilson trade out there to get something back for he and Hill because, no he dosen't start as I think Wilson is ripe to get beat out by a talented rookie if we draft one AND he is in the last year of his contract. He'll cost a fortune in 2008. Who would you rather have? Briggs or a tarnished Wilson? He has been going backwards IMO.

I think the corners were respectable somewhat but certainly not perfect. I think Hobbs is a better nickle back. Another corner is needed and surely another safety.

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