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Old 03-08-2007, 01:13 PM   #11
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Actually, now that I think about it, probably better since I happen to know the game better than he does, so once he has provided me with the facts, I can make MY OWN opinions, thank you.
You sure about that? Other than this little blurb, I agree with your post. You see this on ESPN all the time. They no longer just tell you the facts , they have to scream into the camera telling you WHY this WHY that. I haven't watched ESPN since the AFCCG and it's not only because of the Colts love-in, I'm tired of their act.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:29 PM   #12
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May have inadvertantly left out Tom Curran, who was IMO the best Pats beat writer around.. he is now on the national scene, but with a real Pats flair.. he will only become better with a national perspective, and continue to provide insight to us fans. Really like him on the Sunday AM WEEI sports show, his insight is invaluable.
Perfect example that it's the messenger and not the medium. I do not fear for Reiss as I do not fear for Curran.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:51 PM   #13
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You sure about that? Other than this little blurb, I agree with your post. You see this on ESPN all the time. They no longer just tell you the facts , they have to scream into the camera telling you WHY this WHY that. I haven't watched ESPN since the AFCCG and it's not only because of the Colts love-in, I'm tired of their act.
You are right, I haven't watched much ESPN either since the game. When you get football talk at all, its seems to be all about the Colts. I think they might be getting more love with their ONE Superbowl win, than we did with THREE. AND now that I get the NFL channel, there is almost no need to watch those shameless self promoters.

BTW... and yes, given my experience and background, I positively DO know more football than any of the local media we generally watch. I might even know more than a few of the posters here. Not many, just a couple of the young ones. Now because I don't have much access to the team and 'contacts', I probably don't know as much as they do about the day to day operation of the team, but about the game itself....most definitely.

The only guys I respect and listen to around here are Tim Fox, who I know personally. Steve Nelson, who not only played the game, but coached it (which is really eye opening for the former player BTW). And Nationally I really like Ron Jaworski. There ARE people like DIck Vermiel and Mike Ditka, who really know and understand about the game and what is going on around the league, but unfortunately Ditka is more interested in developing his "cult of personality" than passing on information.

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I've always understood the distinction between the reporter and the columnist or analyst. I think the Boston media and perhaps as a result their audience has lost sight of that distinction (except as a media cover when they are facing criticism).

Why is a columnist even writing a notes column, why are baseball or basketball or hockey columnists at times not only writing extensively about the football team but even subbing for beat reporters. The Herald even created a new title for Felger - Beat Columnist...when they brought in a baseball reporter who couldn't keep his vitriolic opinions to himself while reporting on the local baseball team to replace him on the football beat.

At the end of the day it's all about the Benjamines for sports reporters (I refuse to call them journalists) today. The print market is drying up and who can raise a family on what newspapers pay, particularly when you're covering guys making millions per. I guarantee you Felger is making quadruple what he made at the Herald just a few years ago just for the radio gig, and probably at least as much from his FSNE gigs. And he has managed to retain his undeserved insider media status with gigs like Sports Final. He saw that potential when he went to work for Ordway five years ago. He also saw that while it was nice to be respected and informed, that didn't get you more air time hours or higher paying gigs. So he made a decision he now tries to couch as being objective rather than a butt kisser. He blew a relationship with BB and insider status with the team because he could get further career wise taking rational or even irrational shots at them. To this day I think when Holley landed the dream access slot by writing Patriots Reign, and parlayed that into an ESPN gig and eventually radio co-host on WEEI, while Felgers tome on the Patriots pre BB history languished on shelves as he guested on WEEI, that just sealed it for Mike.

I think it's unfortunate that objective and critical seem to be confused in so many media minds these days. None of these guys (Felger, Borges, Curran, Ordway, Callahan, Gresh - (he might not even have a job) would be where they are today had this organization under BB not won half of the superbowls played in the last 6 years. And while Will McDonough may have laudably worked harder to develop his access and information than these guys are able or willing to, the one thing they continue to try and emulate was Will's most annoying trait - believing he knew more than the professionals about how to run their teams and leagues and could influence them.

In Will's heyday day it wasn't quite as much of a stretch to sell the savvy reporter as more genius than ownership and management as it is today. Most of these clowns don't even know enough about running a successful sports franchise in this complex an era to remotely do their jobs competently whether reporting or opining or commenting on it professionally. Might they be smarter than Matt Millen? It's possible because Millen's supposed genius was a media creation to begin with. Belichick's and Pioli's and Kraft's isn't. And they have the three Lombardi's to prove it.
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Great post, Mo.

BTW- my complaint is not that these guys shouldn't maximize their income doing other things, its just I hate it when THEY take themselves so seriously, and WE take what the SAY so seriously
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What was that 80's song by The Buggles? "Sports Radio Killed the Newspaper Star"
Nice paraphrase,well done.......First video on MTV
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