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Old 03-07-2007, 04:08 PM   #11
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No offense, but what is the fascination with threads on trading for untradable players?

NE will not get Fitzgerald and sooner than they will get Tomlinson or Steve Smith or Peyton Manning.

Why in hell would Arizona trade a guy who they got for the #2 overall pick that has proven to be totally worth it for a #24?

I have no objection to looking at options, but If you are going to discuss guys like Fitzgerald, you might as well say that every player in the league is an option.
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:13 PM   #12
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Lets dream of this one. Lance Briggs and Bernard Berrian and their #2 choice in this years draft (#63) for out two #1's and Eugene Wilson (they need a safety and at least Gino has a couple of SB rings, he is an Illinois grad and is recovered to play in 2007) and Marquis Hill (was not going to play here ahead of anyone especuially with the flexibility of Thomas, and was a 2nd round pick that in spite of all that, he made the team every year). Good young back up for them and the Bears have had injuries in the "D" line. Obviously BB and SP see something in this kid at 6' 6'' and 300lbs.

What does this accomplish, class?......... We get our field "stretcher" young WR. We are set for years at LB (COULD HE PLAY MLB?). We don't have to worry about whether the 1's will make it or when the hell they are going to be ready to play. We get a choice back to go for a CB or SS. Gino is a FA in 2008(?). We get something for Hill.

How 'bout Da Bears? They get rid of a pain in the ***** who will be disruptive without a doubt (see D. Branch). This saves them face. They get not one but two #1's for a total of three. They get another safety they desperately need that happens to be from U. of Illinois. He could start over what they have. They get a backup DL who could blossom there.

The CAP deal works because of the trades as they should even out. It's a WIN for everyone. It gets the PATS two players they can use and makes them better, It gives the Bears flexibility with (3) three number one choices in this years draft, plus two reasonable players (at least Wilson has a decent game history) and yes, there a fleet of WR in this years draft to replace Bernard. Plus Briggs is causing a rift with Urlacher and wants to get paid more than #54.

The Pats still have some CAP room to offer Briggs a better deal and Berrian is under contract for another year or so.

This makes so much sense it scares me.
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Those contract numbers are almost Deion Branch like!

Which of course raises the issue - what do you think the chances are Fitzgerald might hold out for a new contract a la Branch sometime VERY soon... and could this be the reason he might be traded?

So throw out those numbers - if he were traded - for a VERY high price in draft picks or players - he would demand a new contract.

And, in all fairness he deserves one - but it won't be cheap, if that's what you are going for.

But again, all this presumes that the Patriots are looking for a 70 - 80 catch a season guy... i.e. a typical #1 WR. They are not. They are looking for a deep threat and it might be a bit of a waste to use Fitzgerald in that role.
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:26 PM   #14
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I not like Jackson...and I think TC was so correct when he talked about him. So a trade?? Get someone who will fit in and nOT someone with a big head.

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No offense, but what is the fascination with threads on trading for untradable players?

NE will not get Fitzgerald and sooner than they will get Tomlinson or Steve Smith or Peyton Manning.

Why in hell would Arizona trade a guy who they got for the #2 overall pick that has proven to be totally worth it for a #24?

I have no objection to looking at options, but If you are going to discuss guys like Fitzgerald, you might as well say that every player in the league is an option.

OK...I undervalued LF, but the press were talking about the Cards moving him on, therefore IMO he is fairgame for discussion on whether he should be traded for. I would not have suggested LF if the fire had not been started by someone else, as it stands someone has already straightened out what happened there between the cards and LF, so I moved onto another...Bryant Johnson.

No doubt though had I of said both firsts that would have been critizised too.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:43 PM   #16
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OK...I undervalued LF, but the press were talking about the Cards moving him on, therefore IMO he is fairgame for discussion on whether he should be traded for. I would not have suggested LF if the fire had not been started by someone else, as it stands someone has already straightened out what happened there between the cards and LF, so I moved onto another...Bryant Johnson.

No doubt though had I of said both firsts that would have been critizised too.
I didn't realize that you meant Bryant Johnson. He is certainly a viable option.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:58 PM   #17
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This is all moot I'm sure, but Fitzgerald would be worth giving up our whole draft for. (Keeping our compensatory picks, say)
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This would be great move for us...Real dumb move for Az...
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