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Old 03-05-2007, 02:14 PM   #1
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Receiver Wes Welker is visiting with the Patriots today at Gillette Stadium. In addition, a source close to the situation indicated that there have been conversations between the Patriots and Dolphins, opening the possibility that Welker could be traded.

Because Welker is a restricted free agent, and the Patriots are visiting with him today, it was assumed in some circles that the team would sign him to an offer sheet.

At this point, it seems the Patriots are exploring all their options.

While the Patriots could still sign Welker to an offer sheet, don't rule out the possibility of a trade.
Very interesting. Like Mike said, it will not surprise me if he's traded to us.
I wonder what the Dolphins are up to here? If we sign him to the offer sheet and they don't match, they will get our second round pick. Do they want more?

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which course of action would be most advantageous for us?
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They need O-line and some D-line help.

Watch O'Callahan, Kazur or Mike Wright if there is a true trade.
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:21 PM   #4
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Uh, maybe Chad Jackson? They tried to trade him for Moss before it came out he had a ACL injury.

But, I could think of Hill, Childress, Mruckowski as players in lieu of the #2. Maybe a #4 and one of them?

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IMO, talking trade can only help us. If they were talking about more than a second, the Pats could just use a poison pill and sign the deal. Therefore, I expect negotiation to be for something a little less, maybe our 3rd our something like that.

That might be the reason for the leaks about contacting Stallworth and interest in Moss. The Pats want backup plans (or at least make it seem like they do) so that they can get a deal done without having to give up the second.
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I think this could be bad for us from a draft pick standpoint, but better for us by a salary cap standpoint. Why would the Dolphins trade Welker for less than a second? It wouldn't make sense. They could not match the offer and get a second for him and make the Pats overpay for him.

My only guess would be if there was a trade, the Pats would have to package a second day pick in with the deal and they get the right to offer Welker a contract that is market value without worrying about the Dolphins matching.

Personally, if we can save a decent amount of cap space, I would be willing to give a conditional sixth or seventh for the 2008 season which could be increased based on performance. I feel a second is a bit too high for Welker, but if we are going to do the deal I would rather have Welker with a cap friendly deal and lose a late second day pick for it than keep the pick and have Welker have an inflated, front-loaded contract.
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Uh, maybe Chad Jackson? They tried to trade him for Moss before it came out he had a ACL injury.

And where did you pull this one from? I never heard that.
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I dont get it, the Dolphins either could match it or not.. if they match it, they are on the hook for the contract...if they dont they get a second round pick... If we have to give more for this guy, its not worth it...
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IMO, talking trade can only help us. If they were talking about more than a second, the Pats could just use a poison pill and sign the deal. Therefore, I expect negotiation to be for something a little less, maybe our 3rd our something like that.

That might be the reason for the leaks about contacting Stallworth and interest in Moss. The Pats want backup plans (or at least make it seem like they do) so that they can get a deal done without having to give up the second.
The compensation right now is a second rounder. If they trade, it will most likely be more than a second rounder. The Pats will probably have to add a second day pick (hopefully a conditional 2008) to that second round pick in a trade.

If they work out a trade for less than a second round pick, then the Dolphins lose for no reason. If the Pats offer Welker a deal, the Dolphins can do nothing and get a second rounder for him. Why would they make a trade for less that only helps out the Pats and gives them a lesser draft pick.

The only reason we are talking trade is to avoid cap issues with a deal to make it unattractive for the Dolphins to match. That means we have to give up more to get a deal done, not less.
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