Pats scout Frank Leonard accepts assistant tight ends coach for Kansas State - New England Patriots Forums

PATRIOTS-80 · 01-29-2007, 08:05 PM

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***pats1*** · 01-29-2007, 08:06 PM

Honestly, I'd rather be a scout on a 3-time Super Bowl champion than an assistant tight ends coach on a NCAA team.

SeanBruschi54 · 01-29-2007, 08:25 PM

First of all i guess if this is what he wants then good for him and congrats.

But how many scouts do we have and does anyone know how long they have been with the team.

***pats1*** · 01-29-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanBruschi54

First of all i guess if this is what he wants then good for him and congrats.

But how many scouts do we have and does anyone know how long they have been with the team.

As of the 2006 Yearbook (minus Leonard):

Vice President of Player Personnel - Scott Pioli
General Counsel for Player Personnel - Jack Mula
Director of Pro Personnel - Nick Caserio
Director of College Scouting - Thomas Dimitroff
Director of Scouting Administration - Nancy Meier
College Scouting Coordinator - Jay Muraco
Regional Scout - Jonathan Robinson
Area Scout - Marvin Allen
Area Scout - Tim Heffelfinger
Area Scout - Frantzy Jourdain
Area Scout - Jim Nagy
Area Scout - Kyle O'Brien
Area Scout - Monti Ossenfort
Area Scout - Adam Peters
Area Scout - Bob Quinn
Pro Scout - Brian Flores
Scouting Consultant - Larry Cook
Scouting Consultant - Bucko Kilroy
Scouting Assistant - Dujuan Daniels
Scouting Assistant - Tim Pichette
Special Assignments - Brian Smith

Seymour93 · 01-29-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanBruschi54

First of all i guess if this is what he wants then good for him and congrats.

But how many scouts do we have and does anyone know how long they have been with the team.

Edit: Oops. Pats1 beat me to it.

SeanBruschi54 · 01-29-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pats1

As of the 2006 Yearbook (minus Leonard):

Vice President of Player Personnel - Scott Pioli
General Counsel for Player Personnel - Jack Mula
Director of Pro Personnel - Nick Caserio
Director of College Scouting - Thomas Dimitroff
Director of Scouting Administration - Nancy Meier
College Scouting Coordinator - Jay Muraco
Regional Scout - Jonathan Robinson
Area Scout - Marvin Allen
Area Scout - Tim Heffelfinger
Area Scout - Frantzy Jourdain
Area Scout - Jim Nagy
Area Scout - Kyle O'Brien
Area Scout - Monti Ossenfort
Area Scout - Adam Peters
Area Scout - Bob Quinn
Pro Scout - Brian Flores
Scouting Consultant - Larry Cook
Scouting Consultant - Bucko Kilroy
Scouting Assistant - Dujuan Daniels
Scouting Assistant - Tim Pichette
Special Assignments - Brian Smith

Thanks for the effort.

Dam does every team have that many?

If so maybe i should start applying for some type of internship.

***pats1*** · 01-29-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanBruschi54

Thanks for the effort.

Dam does every team have that many?

If so maybe i should start applying for some type of internship.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

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POSTED 7:36 a.m. EST; LAST UPDATED 8:43 a.m. EST, January 29, 2007

BENGALS NEED TO BEEF UP SCOUTING STAFF

In response to the item we posted on Sunday night addressing the tough talk from Bengals president Mike Brown regarding his displeasure with a roster including nine players who have been arrested since December 2005, a former NFL front-office employee has reminded us of one of the potential causes for the problem with which the team is now struggling.

The Bengals don't employ enough scouts.

According to the team's official web site, the Bengals have only one scout and three "scouting consultants."

"Most teams have almost 10 college scouts and a scouting assistant or 2," said the source. "It's amazing that they have gone this far today and do things backwards. They have no one else to blame but their own front office."

So how do they get ready for the draft? The talk is that the assistant coaches get pressed into service after the season ends. But that's like showing up 90 minutes late for a marathon, since every other team has been spending the entire football season dispatching its scouts to points all over the country, where they attend college practices and games.

Focusing only on the AFC North, the Bengals are well behind their key rivals. The Steelers have at least seven college scouts, and one person who splits time between assessing college and pro prospects. The Ravens have eight college scouts. The Browns have nine college scouts. (Um, Cleveland, it's not working.)

Why don't the Bengals have a bigger scouting staff? Because they're cheap.

And this brings us back to the whole revenue issue. Sure, the Bengals are near the bottom of the NFL in gross revenue. But they continue to be one of the most profitable teams, because they spend as little of their money as possible.

So while we've been blaming Marvin Lewis for the mess in the Queen City, it very well could be that much of the blame falls to Brown.

With that said, the Bengals are clearly doing enough to identify the talented players. The flaw apparently lies in the nuances and details, which prompted many of the guys whom they have selected over the past couple of years to slide until the Bengals realized that they were in position to snag what they thought was a steal.

SeanBruschi54 · 01-29-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pats1

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Good, maybe the Bengals scouts are so bad they will pass on a needed linebacker in the draft.

NoCal Patriot · 01-30-2007, 08:36 AM

It's hard to believe that Bucko Killroy is STILL on the Payroll.He joined the Patriots in the early 1970's from the Cowboys.