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Old 12-25-2006, 02:47 AM   #11
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Peyton Manning is currently the best QB in the NFL. I am a loyal Pats fan and I am glad Tom is our QB but Peyton is by far the best QB in the NFL. If we had Peyton this year on our team we would have at least two more wins.

Tom played great today but it doesn't erase his performance against Denver, Indy, Jets or Miami this year. A couple of play off wins this year will do it for me.

Go Pats Go...Let us Pat fans stay in reality when evaluating our team and players.
How about Mannings performances in losses to Dallas, Tennessee and Jacksonville? Manning is the best pure passer in the league, and it doesn't hurt to have an expensive offense assembled around him including pro bowl linemen and 2 #1 WR's pulling down $15M+ between just the two of them. You think Peyton could make do with a rag tag crew of cast offs, practice squad players and rookies? Dream on.
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Old 12-25-2006, 03:00 AM   #12
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Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady...The Patriots are a TEAM organization not a single player organization. Tom has not; will not and can not win anything by himself.
And the organization has not, will not and can not win anything without him. It amazes me that there are still "Pat's fans" who just don't get it. When even a mediot like Prisco does:

"On a gray, dreary day in North Florida, the basic tenet of NFL success came through loud and clear once again, which it always does.

That lesson is this: A great quarterback cures your ills, a so-so one exposes them.

Tom Brady, as he did in winning three Super Bowls, still covers up the problems for the New England Patriots. David Garrard, on the other hand, exposes the trouble spots for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In a 24-21 Patriots victory, one that clinches the AFC East for New England, Brady picked apart a good Jacksonville defense, his short passing game a mastery to watch, reminding us once more why New England will again be a factor in the playoffs.

As long as Tom Brady's the main man in this motley crew, the Pats will always contend.

Brady completed passes to 10 different receivers -- some might question even using the word receivers to describe that group -- as he threw for 249 yards and one touchdown, that coming on a perfect throw to third-team tight end David Thomas. "



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Hate to bust up the worship fest, but he threw a lot of inaccurate passes today.

Poise and patience were great, but hitting guys in stride he was not.
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Sorry, didn't mean to be a wet blanket. He made some great throws, particularly to Graham and Thomas.

But he also had to rush as many times as Dillon and I don't think we want that every game.

The receiving corps has been much maligned, but they all made some great catches on really short passes and there was not much YAC because of it.

I guess me and the announcers were the only ones to notice this. And I believe I saw him overthrow a wide open Troy Brown by ten feet, but maybe that was only me too.

Bottom line, great controlled drives, patience and poise. He certainly was careful with his throws and that might have influenced the placement sometimes.

His receivers deserve a lot of credit as I don't remember many drops and they had to make adjustments sometimes.

Yes, he's the best QB in football, no doubt.

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My concern was after the shoulder hit? Brady threw a poor throw on 3rd and long to Brown. Was his shoulder tightening up. After the hit, he threw a pass to Graham, and then was on the sideline for a good amount of time, while Jax marched down for a TD. AFter the hit, we ran 6 offensive plays, 4 were runs, which is markedly different than the slice and dice passing attack we had seen prior to the hit.
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Tom played great today but it doesn't erase his performance against Denver, Indy, Jets or Miami this year. A couple of play off wins this year will do it for me.
This is a perfect example of how spoiled this generation of fans have become. It's no wonder you can hear a pin drop at Gillette stadium.

The Patriots are 11 - 4 and just won the division for the 5th time in 6 years. Isn't that enough to do it for you?

BTW..Your boy "Pay-me-a-ton" just lost to the Texans.

If you're so big on the team concept (and I am too) ...why cast the entire blame of the the 4 losses on Brady.
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My concern was after the shoulder hit? Brady threw a poor throw on 3rd and long to Brown. Was his shoulder tightening up. After the hit, he threw a pass to Graham, and then was on the sideline for a good amount of time, while Jax marched down for a TD. AFter the hit, we ran 6 offensive plays, 4 were runs, which is markedly different than the slice and dice passing attack we had seen prior to the hit.
What do you want the pats to do? It was either run, have brady pass with a sore shoulder and back or have cassel throw. It was third and long, he ahd to throw.

The guy showed he's legendary by throwing on the sidelines 2 minutes after it happened like he never got hit. He typifies patriots football with mental and physical toughness. We're lucky to have those traits in the most important postion which trickles down to the 53 roster spot.
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Peyton Manning is currently the best QB in the NFL. I am a loyal Pats fan and I am glad Tom is our QB but Peyton is by far the best QB in the NFL. If we had Peyton this year on our team we would have at least two more wins.

Tom played great today but it doesn't erase his performance against Denver, Indy, Jets or Miami this year. A couple of play off wins this year will do it for me.

Go Pats Go...Let us Pat fans stay in reality when evaluating our team and players.
I don't agree with having two more wins. Manning nearly lost to both the Broncos and Jets and had to win it on last drives, which he did as I gave him credit for. So the question is..... is it Brady's fault on receivers fumbles? I would say the high throws were his fault.

It's yet to be seen how Fins plays next week against the Colts.

and not to mention the crybaby colts getting PI calls. it would interesting to see how things would have been if the colts never influenced rules changes(points of emphasis).
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What do you want the pats to do? It was either run, have brady pass with a sore shoulder and back or have cassel throw. It was third and long, he ahd to throw.

The guy showed he's legendary by throwing on the sidelines 2 minutes after it happened like he never got hit. He typifies patriots football with mental and physical toughness. We're lucky to have those traits in the most important postion which trickles down to the 53 roster spot.
My concern was that he is hurt worst than it showed.....I wasn't picking on what he did, I too think he is as tough as any lineman.
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My concern was after the shoulder hit? Brady threw a poor throw on 3rd and long to Brown. Was his shoulder tightening up. After the hit, he threw a pass to Graham, and then was on the sideline for a good amount of time, while Jax marched down for a TD. AFter the hit, we ran 6 offensive plays, 4 were runs, which is markedly different than the slice and dice passing attack we had seen prior to the hit.
I don't think that bad throw to Brown on 3rd down was a result of a sore shoulder. Henderson was right in his face and he had to throw over him. A result of Henderson being a monster, and Brown being 5'8 made the overthrow worse than it would have been.
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