ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW
Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!
Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.
NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98
Thre are certain people on this board that cannot give credit where credit is due. Their own ego's are bigger than their love for the Patriots.
Those "all seeng - all knowing" egotists don't see that Josh is never that far away from BB when calling plays. Charlie use to be in his own area when calling plays. So, if you want to keep taking shots a Josh then you are really taking shots at BB.
Yeterdays game was well planned and well executed againts a very good defensive team. Was it perfectly called and executed? No, but very few game plans are.
I use to feel sorry for people who can't help themselves but to be nit-pickers.But, now I just hold them in contempt.
If anyone thinks that this is directed at them, all I can say is, if the shoe fits wear it.
Although your comment may, in fact, have some sarcasm to it, it may be more correct than you realize.
The one thing thaty drastically changed was the number of pases thrown on first downs, as opposed to the 5 out of 23 first down plays the previous week.
It made third down plays considerably easier to convert to first downs.
One way or another adjustments were made to the offense this week, adjustments in the form of better choices of plays, better mixing of the attack, better use of both the personnel on hand and the better use of variety to keep the opponents' D on their heels.
Very few teams possess the overwhelming talent on offense to run plays at will and simply blow out the opposing defense. The current Patriots are no exception. For the Pats to succeed on offense they need to be creative in both their designing and calling of plays and their use of the correct personnel to do the job.
Anybody who thinks the Pats play-calling has been flawless this year has been drinking too much high-sucrose soft drink. I have yet to hear even Tom Brady say: "Well, we sure kicked ass today and we are all set in our offensive set-up; no one can touch us." Ha!! Quite the opposite. Tom knows better than most that in order to win consistently in the NFL takes *constant* effort in both the creative design and the successful execution of that design. Failing either is a loss at the end of the game. "We need to work harder," is all I've ever heard Brady say.
One way or another adjustments were made to the offense this week, adjustments in the form of better choices of plays, better mixing of the attack, better use of both the personnel on hand and the better use of variety to keep the opponents' D on their heels.
Very few teams possess the overwhelming talent on offense to run plays at will and simply blow out the opposing defense. The current Patriots are no exception. For the Pats to succeed on offense they need to be creative in both their designing and calling of plays and their use of the correct personnel to do the job.
Anybody who thinks the Pats play-calling has been flawless this year has been drinking too much high-sucrose soft drink. I have yet to hear even Tom Brady say: "Well, we sure kicked ass today and we are all set in our offensive set-up; no one can touch us." Ha!! Quite the opposite. Tom knows better than most that in order to win consistently in the NFL takes *constant* effort in both the creative design and the successful execution of that design. Failing either is a loss at the end of the game. "We need to work harder," is all I've ever heard Brady say.
The Patriots game plan every week on offense. Always have in the BB era.
Run against the Bengals, pass against the Vikings etc.
I would say they usually know what they want to do and the execution has been the problem.
Whatever it is they think they can do against Miami usually doesn't work and you'd think they'd have that defense figured out by now.
Charlie use to be in his own area when calling plays. So, if you want to keep taking shots a Josh then you are really taking shots at BB.
I for one feel it is obvious from this year's (and last year's) offensive scheming and execution -- with the latter being in some part a factor of the former -- has been less creative or effective than it was under Charlie.
BB's history has been defense, and he has clearly shown himself to be a real genius on that side of the ball this past decade, and possibly longer. I do not think BB's offensive skills have been on the same level, although I think he has improved over time, especially in his use of personnel for specific types of plays.
I don't call that nit-picking; I call it tying to improve, which is a necessity in the NFL. I saw on the Colts' board, referenced by another poster on this board, that there are calls from Colts fans for Dungy's firing. That's what happens when a good coach doesn't make the needed adjustments to get the job done.
Our offense is top ten in yards. And scoring. And Football Outsiders' ratings - despite losing all it's WR other than Brown. Why does McDaniels still suck for some of you ? I think he's done a really, really good job. And scoring 24 on a top five defense yesterday did nothing to change that.
Nobody wants to discuss your crap later. Why would you want to savor this title, its not as if you are a fan who has pulled for it. IF you actually document calls that you don't like and then use them to make a point you are either sick or so caught up with yourself its ridiculous. Oh wait it's both.
Yes, yes I know you were a fan b4 I was born blah blah blah. Go fing the sleigh tracks on top of the nursing home.
Digger, that's not really necessary. If you don't agree with the man, you can say it without resorting to such negative ad hominem. Really, it drags down the whole atmosphere. NEM's got a point; he's an "old dude" who feels he's got a right to say it now because he may not be around to say it later. If you don't agree say so with civility and more people will tend to listen more to your point. Ad hom just weakens whatever good point you have to share.
I for one feel it is obvious from this year's (and last year's) offensive scheming and execution -- with the latter being in some part a factor of the former -- has been less creative or effective than it was under Charlie.
I really that numbers mean nothing to most of you and "how it looks" is what matters but this is our best offense except for 2004 when everything was intact. The fact that this is the case with what happened at WR is impressive - the fact that the fans are disappointed with it is perplexing.
One way or another adjustments were made to the offense this week, adjustments in the form of better choices of plays, better mixing of the attack, better use of both the personnel on hand and the better use of variety to keep the opponents' D on their heels.
Very few teams possess the overwhelming talent on offense to run plays at will and simply blow out the opposing defense. The current Patriots are no exception. For the Pats to succeed on offense they need to be creative in both their designing and calling of plays and their use of the correct personnel to do the job.
Anybody who thinks the Pats play-calling has been flawless this year has been drinking too much high-sucrose soft drink. I have yet to hear even Tom Brady say: "Well, we sure kicked ass today and we are all set in our offensive set-up; no one can touch us." Ha!! Quite the opposite. Tom knows better than most that in order to win consistently in the NFL takes *constant* effort in both the creative design and the successful execution of that design. Failing either is a loss at the end of the game. "We need to work harder," is all I've ever heard Brady say.
I vote for #2. Some teams run the same basic offense each week. You don't see 3 TEs, then 2 RBs, empty backfield etc.etc.etc.
The Patriots have a lot of new people on offense.
I think the Pats have tightened it up by simplifying some things and running more focused practices.
The game plan is formed during practice by BB Brady and the OC.
The extent to which the OC pulls some magical sequence of plays out of his ass during games is exaggerated to a ludicrous extent by some posters.
Neither is he at fault for lack of diligence in learning the game plan by the players.
If the players are dedicated now to keeping up with a very difficult learning curve week to week, the game plans will be there.
Considering that isn't definite yet, judging the relative creativity of McDaniels vs. Weis is still premature IMO.
I really that numbers mean nothing to most of you and "how it looks" is what matters but this is our best offense except for 2004 when everything was intact. The fact that this is the case with what happened at WR is impressive - the fact that the fans are disappointed with it is perplexing.
"Obvious" on this board means I didn't want to bother checking .
Re: Congrats to Josh McD
Linear Mode
